LVM and NFS
Joe
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Berny Stapleton
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:48 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix to give away XenServer FREE
I know shared storage is available in ESX, I have it and am using it now.
I didn't know Citrix had shared storage on XenServer, what are they using for a filesystem?
Berny
2009/2/20 Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@gmail.com>
What do you mean? Shared storage is available now with VMware ESX and XenServer. Microsoft is slated to have shared cluster support in Win 2008 R2.
Joe
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Berny Stapleton
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 7:44 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix to give away XenServer FREE
Oh one more thing, lets see who gets their finger out first to do shared storage out of the box. (Yes, I know RedHat has it with GFS, but I haven't exactly heard of a lot of people using it)
VMWare supports this now with their FS (VMFS) on EMC and NetApp.
2009/2/20 Berny Stapleton <berny@technology.net.au>
Xen in different flavours can be gotten from anywhere. MS is giving it away with Windows 2003 R2, Xen is available in multiple Linux kernels and distributions. So effectively, yes, it is free now.
VMWare have given out ESXi for nothing, but it's the management tools that cost (VMotion etc)
If Citrix release all their management tools and everything else for nothing, then the problem for VMWare then becomes "What are you guys selling, and why should I buy it?". Mind you, that would effectively destroy the market.
Berny
2009/2/20 Andrew Wood <andrew.wood@gilwood-cs.co.uk>
But essentially its free *now* isn't it – its free for servers if you're not going to do any management on them?
The hypervisor component is a mere bagatelle imo .. all the major players are looking to support the same image type – its essentially 'all cars run on petrol' –it's the management of the virtual services, the feeding and the watering of them for enterprise solutions – that's where the development and license cost is going to go ... as well as services obviously.
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Greg Reese
Sent: 20 February 2009 12:39
To: Thin
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix to give away XenServer FREE
Microsoft is going to love watching a price war.
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On Feb 20, 2009, at 1:47 AM, Berny Stapleton <berny@technology.net.au> wrote:Umm, I think EMC still own part of them, but they were seperated and floated.
> How come I get the feeling that VMWare is the next Novell!
I hadn't thought about that, but everyone seems to be rallying around Xen, and if VMWare don't drop their price, it could well be a right thrashing for them.
Berny2009/2/20 Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com>
Vmware is still an emc company right?
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On Feb 19, 2009, at 10:57 PM, "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@thinclient.net> wrote:Not a bad choice this week but after next week the rumors are strong that not only is Citrix going to give away the hypervisor, but also the Enterprise features such as Xen Motion and storage repositories. It will get very interesting, very quickly if this really happens!!
How come I get the feeling that VMWare is the next Novell!?!!?! J
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From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jan
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 3:24 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix to give away XenServer FREE
Wow... we recently bought VMware ESX for 7 servers. I'm wondering if that was a bad fiscal choice in light of this.
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Tim <timothylanderson@gmail.com> wrote:
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Free XenServer virtualization hypervisor helps Citrix, partners say
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By Colin Steele, Site Editor
19 Feb 2009 | SearchSystemsChannel.com
The server virtualization hypervisor wars are heating up. Citrix plans to give away XenServer 5 -- its Xen hypervisor, along with live migration, native Windows and Linux support and other advanced features -- for free.
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