[THIN] Re: new printer mapping issue

I have found that it is usually necessary to forcibly kill the CPM and
spooler service.

I started developing a script to send a test page using rundll32, and
then restart the services if the job errored.
Unfortunately, with a hung spooler, my script would just wait and wait
and wait forever, and never restart or kill the services.

Does anyone have a utility which will kill and restart (or even just
kill) the services when the CPM and spooler are no longer responding?

Thanks,

Adam.

2009/2/8 Pat Coughlin <strangedog@gmail.com>:
> This is a symptom of a classic spooler crash. The spooler restarts
> but the citrix print manager service does not resume functioning. I
> use a script that stops cps service starts the spooler and the starts
> the cps. This stops this issue about 98% of the time.
>
>
> Pat Coughlin
>
>
>
> On 2/4/09, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
>> yep - it maps the one from the client as well but sets the local xps as the
>> default
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is the xps printer the local printer on the server?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 4, 2009, at 8:12 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> xenapp 4.5 hr03, w2k3r2, most clients are xp with ica 10.2. Suddenly
>>> today
>>>> a lot of clients are getting the microsoft xps document as their default
>>>> printer. If they delete that and re-logoff-logon their printers map but
>>>> none
>>>> get set as the default. Nothing's been changed in the last 10 days, my
>>>> sms/wsus guy claims he didn't push or release anything last night. I have
>>>> a
>>>> farm policy to map all client printers, which is working, ica-tcp
>>>> settings
>>>> are set to default to main client printer, which is apparently not
>>>> working.
>>>>
>>>> ideas?
>>>>
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[THIN] Re: new printer mapping issue

This is a symptom of a classic spooler crash. The spooler restarts
but the citrix print manager service does not resume functioning. I
use a script that stops cps service starts the spooler and the starts
the cps. This stops this issue about 98% of the time.

Pat Coughlin

On 2/4/09, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
> yep - it maps the one from the client as well but sets the local xps as the
> default
>
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is the xps printer the local printer on the server?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 4, 2009, at 8:12 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> xenapp 4.5 hr03, w2k3r2, most clients are xp with ica 10.2. Suddenly
>> today
>>> a lot of clients are getting the microsoft xps document as their default
>>> printer. If they delete that and re-logoff-logon their printers map but
>>> none
>>> get set as the default. Nothing's been changed in the last 10 days, my
>>> sms/wsus guy claims he didn't push or release anything last night. I have
>>> a
>>> farm policy to map all client printers, which is working, ica-tcp
>>> settings
>>> are set to default to main client printer, which is apparently not
>>> working.
>>>
>>> ideas?
>>>
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[THIN] Re: Quicken Home & Business 2009

Would you be able to use Provision’s File Redirection to achieve the same thing as AIE?

IE Redirect c:\quicken\qw.exe to %homedrive%%homepath%\%username%qw.exe or similar?

 

Nick

 

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Subject: [THIN] Re: Quicken Home & Business 2009

 

Hi Gehan,

 

Yes and it's actually quite easy.

 

Quicken sets a global mutex (QW is running) to prevent more than one instance running on a server. A global mutex is a semaphore that is visible to all terminal server sessions so if one user runs qw.exe, the global mutex (qw is running) is visible in all other user sessions, preventing them from running another instance of QW.

 

You can do several things to get around this problem:

1. Rename the global mutex to a name that is user-specific, which is what Citrix AIE does.

2. Use a script wrapper to kill the global mutex handle

3. modify qw.exe to change the global mutex reference to a local mutex

 

AIE is only available in XenApp enterprise or platinum editions, but if you've only got advanced edition or plain terminal services the other 2 options aren't very hard.

 

regards,

 

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Hello

Has anyone been able to deploy any of the  Quicken Home & Business 2007/  8 or 9 in either a Pres 4.0 or 4.5 server farm using any method successfully ?

This app has a nice little problem of only being able to run once per box, i have never been able to successfully isolate the app.



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[THIN] Re: Quicken Home & Business 2009

Hi Gehan,

 

Yes and it's actually quite easy.

 

Quicken sets a global mutex (QW is running) to prevent more than one instance running on a server. A global mutex is a semaphore that is visible to all terminal server sessions so if one user runs qw.exe, the global mutex (qw is running) is visible in all other user sessions, preventing them from running another instance of QW.

 

You can do several things to get around this problem:

1. Rename the global mutex to a name that is user-specific, which is what Citrix AIE does.

2. Use a script wrapper to kill the global mutex handle

3. modify qw.exe to change the global mutex reference to a local mutex

 

AIE is only available in XenApp enterprise or platinum editions, but if you've only got advanced edition or plain terminal services the other 2 options aren't very hard.

 

regards,

 

Rick

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On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 9:51 AM, <Gehan.DeSilva@rsmi.com.au> wrote:

Hello

Has anyone been able to deploy any of the  Quicken Home & Business 2007/  8 or 9 in either a Pres 4.0 or 4.5 server farm using any method successfully ?

This app has a nice little problem of only being able to run once per box, i have never been able to successfully isolate the app.



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[THIN] Re: Anyone using Application virtualization inside a Citrix/TS session?

We have done it for many years primarily with SoftGrid, now Microsoft App-V.
At this point for use in a Citrix farm I would suggest testing the Citrix
streaming solution. Earlier version were lacking but recently they have
worked on adding inter "Bubble" communications and are overcoming some of
the limitations of App-V in the process.

I believe it is included with the Enterprise version of XenApp, definitely
in Platinum......

The short version has been from our experience to install the simple apps
that present no issues and have no real integration requirements into the
base OS and then stream the rest that require isolation, frequent patches,
weird integration requirements, etc.

Again, I recommend trying the Citrix solution first because it is built in
to the product and has minimal infrastructure requirements. If it doesn't
work then you can progress onto App-V or other solutions but they will have
additional cost and complexity.......

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session?

Looking to test this for our Citrix farm in the near future. My
objective is to sequence most apps we use on our farm to make the
actual Citrix server nothing more than an OS and place for the
virtualized apps to run. What do you use? Why did you choose/stick
with this product? I know Citrix has their own app streaming in
XA5.0, but don't you have to run Enterprise or Platinum editions to
get this functionality? Anyone use App-V for Terminal Services? Is
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evaluating that do this would also be welcome.
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[THIN] Re: 10.2

Chris I still have a copy of the 10.2 client around.
Email me off list
jasoncitrix@m3as.com

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Webster <Webster@carlwebster.com> wrote:

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Webster
Subject: [THIN] Re: 10.2

 

http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX116550

 

Sorry, didn't see that CTX article now says 10.2 isn't available for d/l anymore.

 

Webster

 

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Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 3:17 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] 10.2

 

Anyone know where I can download it?

 

[THIN] Re: Anyone using Application virtualization inside a Citrix/TS session?

http://www.virtuall.nl/articles/applicationanddesktopdelivery/ApplicationVirtualizationSolutionsOverviewandFeatureMatrix.pdf

Ruben Spruijt (PQR) has provided an excellent document to help you compare your requirements to the prominent vendor solutions. Note that Altiris SVS is not supported on Terminal Server...

We use App-V 4.1 currently, but there is a learning curve. Not 64-bit capable yet, and our core apps are installed locally.

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Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone using Application virtualization inside a Citrix/TS session?

I heard the OLE thing mostly was addressed in v4.5. I will definitely
be testing those kinds of apps though.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Nick Smith <nick@officeanyplace.com> wrote:
> I use Softgrid (4.0, which I know is a version behind). It is useful for some minor/weird apps, but as soon as you use an app with OLE-type integration, it falls apart - and that wipes out Office, Accounts packages, CRM, most databases...sequencing most apps sounds lovely (And got me very excited as a possibility) but definitely is not feasible - though, again, I've just stayed at 4.0. I'm sure others will chip in with more recent experience...
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>
> Looking to test this for our Citrix farm in the near future. My
> objective is to sequence most apps we use on our farm to make the
> actual Citrix server nothing more than an OS and place for the
> virtualized apps to run. What do you use? Why did you choose/stick
> with this product? I know Citrix has their own app streaming in
> XA5.0, but don't you have to run Enterprise or Platinum editions to
> get this functionality? Anyone use App-V for Terminal Services? Is
> this better/worse solution than Citrix? Other products I should try
> evaluating that do this would also be welcome.
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[THIN] Re: TS Gateway - OT?

Agreed. The critical emphasis in my assessment should have been ‘everything *we* need’. We haven’t got any use for the advanced Citrix features (And no time/budget to develop the needed expertise), so Provision fill our gap very nicely.

 

To answer the OP, I’d guess any organisation complex enough to have an ‘Architecture Group’ is too complex for vanilla TS, even 2008...

 

 

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Subject: [THIN] Re: TS Gateway - OT?

 

I think it is a good idea to right size these things. If the free version, or the free version with an add-on, can do it for less $$ then obviously it is a good solution.

 

I think it is a little misguided though when people say that Citrix is overpriced, they clearly have the most advanced functionality available, particularly when you put a complete solution together across the App Delivery/Networking/Virtualization spaces…..

 

This is why I think Provision Networks are very smart, they can potentially build a large and lucrative market around what most people need most of the time- brilliant!

 

 

Steve Greenberg

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The gateway works, we’ve been using it for a while, on occasional basis. It works quite nicely, in fact, but with basically no granularity; it remains that if you’re serving our the same apps to the same people then vanilla TS works fine – for small firms, it’s great.

 

For anything more complex, you will probably need an add-on. Ericom provide a freebie (Then you pay if you want load-balancing features). For my money using Provision’s...umm...vWorkspace (Recently renamed) is the direction we’re going as our ‘We don’t need Citrix’ solution – does everything we need for *waaaaaayyyyyyy* less money than Citrix.

 

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Sent: 06 February 2009 04:29
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Subject: [THIN] Re: TS Gateway - OT?

 

And it beats Citrix’s CSG by $0.00.

 

Citrix killer?  No…  There is still value that Citrix adds to Terminal Services above and beyond the stock product.  For smaller customers there is AE and for Medium to Enterprise there is XenApp Enterprise and Platinum.  For remote access, CSG is included in AE.  For larger customers there  is the CAG and AGE.

 

Joe

 

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It’s worth every penny it cost!

 

 

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Subject: [THIN] TS Gateway - OT?

 

So it's been about a year that the MS TS Gateway has been around.  I've seen zero discussion of it on this board, I'm wondering what everyone's opinion is of it and if they have tested or implemented.  My architecture group seems to think it's a Citrix killer.  I don't.  I'm preparing my arguments now and would appreciate a sound off from the list on the subject.

Thanks all

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[THIN] Re: Anyone using Application virtualization inside a Citrix/TS session?

I heard the OLE thing mostly was addressed in v4.5. I will definitely
be testing those kinds of apps though.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Nick Smith <nick@officeanyplace.com> wrote:
> I use Softgrid (4.0, which I know is a version behind). It is useful for some minor/weird apps, but as soon as you use an app with OLE-type integration, it falls apart - and that wipes out Office, Accounts packages, CRM, most databases...sequencing most apps sounds lovely (And got me very excited as a possibility) but definitely is not feasible - though, again, I've just stayed at 4.0. I'm sure others will chip in with more recent experience...
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>
> Looking to test this for our Citrix farm in the near future. My
> objective is to sequence most apps we use on our farm to make the
> actual Citrix server nothing more than an OS and place for the
> virtualized apps to run. What do you use? Why did you choose/stick
> with this product? I know Citrix has their own app streaming in
> XA5.0, but don't you have to run Enterprise or Platinum editions to
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[THIN] Re: Anyone using Application virtualization inside a Citrix/TS session?

Softgrid is now Microsoft App-V
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On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Nick Smith <nick@officeanyplace.com> wrote:

I use Softgrid (4.0, which I know is a version behind). It is useful for some minor/weird apps, but as soon as you use an app with OLE-type integration, it falls apart - and that wipes out Office, Accounts packages, CRM, most databases...sequencing most apps sounds lovely (And got me very excited as a possibility) but definitely is not feasible - though, again, I've just stayed at 4.0. I'm sure others will chip in with more recent experience...

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Subject: [THIN] Anyone using Application virtualization inside a Citrix/TS session?

Looking to test this for our Citrix farm in the near future. My
objective is to sequence most apps we use on our farm to make the
actual Citrix server nothing more than an OS and place for the
virtualized apps to run.  What do you use? Why did you choose/stick
with this product?  I know Citrix has their own app streaming in
XA5.0, but don't you have to run Enterprise or Platinum editions to
get this functionality?  Anyone use App-V for Terminal Services? Is
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[THIN] Re: Anyone using Application virtualization inside a Citrix/TS session?

Altiris SVS or Appstream
http://www.symantec.com/community/article/1242/success-story-lane-county
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On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Matt Kosht <matt.kosht@gmail.com> wrote:

Looking to test this for our Citrix farm in the near future. My
objective is to sequence most apps we use on our farm to make the
actual Citrix server nothing more than an OS and place for the
virtualized apps to run.  What do you use? Why did you choose/stick
with this product?  I know Citrix has their own app streaming in
XA5.0, but don't you have to run Enterprise or Platinum editions to
get this functionality?  Anyone use App-V for Terminal Services? Is
this better/worse solution than Citrix? Other products I should try
evaluating that do this would also be welcome.
-Matt
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[THIN] Re: Anyone using Application virtualization inside a Citrix/TS session?

I use Softgrid (4.0, which I know is a version behind). It is useful for some minor/weird apps, but as soon as you use an app with OLE-type integration, it falls apart - and that wipes out Office, Accounts packages, CRM, most databases...sequencing most apps sounds lovely (And got me very excited as a possibility) but definitely is not feasible - though, again, I've just stayed at 4.0. I'm sure others will chip in with more recent experience...

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From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Matt Kosht
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Subject: [THIN] Anyone using Application virtualization inside a Citrix/TS session?

Looking to test this for our Citrix farm in the near future. My
objective is to sequence most apps we use on our farm to make the
actual Citrix server nothing more than an OS and place for the
virtualized apps to run. What do you use? Why did you choose/stick
with this product? I know Citrix has their own app streaming in
XA5.0, but don't you have to run Enterprise or Platinum editions to
get this functionality? Anyone use App-V for Terminal Services? Is
this better/worse solution than Citrix? Other products I should try
evaluating that do this would also be welcome.
-Matt
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[THIN] Anyone using Application virtualization inside a Citrix/TS session?

Looking to test this for our Citrix farm in the near future. My
objective is to sequence most apps we use on our farm to make the
actual Citrix server nothing more than an OS and place for the
virtualized apps to run. What do you use? Why did you choose/stick
with this product? I know Citrix has their own app streaming in
XA5.0, but don't you have to run Enterprise or Platinum editions to
get this functionality? Anyone use App-V for Terminal Services? Is
this better/worse solution than Citrix? Other products I should try
evaluating that do this would also be welcome.
-Matt
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[THIN] Re: TS Gateway - OT?

I think it is a good idea to right size these things. If the free version, or the free version with an add-on, can do it for less $$ then obviously it is a good solution.

 

I think it is a little misguided though when people say that Citrix is overpriced, they clearly have the most advanced functionality available, particularly when you put a complete solution together across the App Delivery/Networking/Virtualization spaces…..

 

This is why I think Provision Networks are very smart, they can potentially build a large and lucrative market around what most people need most of the time- brilliant!

 

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85266

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@thinclient.net

 

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From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Nick Smith
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:14 AM
To: 'thin@freelists.org'
Subject: [THIN] Re: TS Gateway - OT?

 

The gateway works, we’ve been using it for a while, on occasional basis. It works quite nicely, in fact, but with basically no granularity; it remains that if you’re serving our the same apps to the same people then vanilla TS works fine – for small firms, it’s great.

 

For anything more complex, you will probably need an add-on. Ericom provide a freebie (Then you pay if you want load-balancing features). For my money using Provision’s...umm...vWorkspace (Recently renamed) is the direction we’re going as our ‘We don’t need Citrix’ solution – does everything we need for *waaaaaayyyyyyy* less money than Citrix.

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: 06 February 2009 04:29
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: TS Gateway - OT?

 

And it beats Citrix’s CSG by $0.00.

 

Citrix killer?  No…  There is still value that Citrix adds to Terminal Services above and beyond the stock product.  For smaller customers there is AE and for Medium to Enterprise there is XenApp Enterprise and Platinum.  For remote access, CSG is included in AE.  For larger customers there  is the CAG and AGE.

 

Joe

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:55 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: TS Gateway - OT?

 

It’s worth every penny it cost!

 

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85266

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@thinclient.net

 

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From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Tom Sorenson
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 7:40 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] TS Gateway - OT?

 

So it's been about a year that the MS TS Gateway has been around.  I've seen zero discussion of it on this board, I'm wondering what everyone's opinion is of it and if they have tested or implemented.  My architecture group seems to think it's a Citrix killer.  I don't.  I'm preparing my arguments now and would appreciate a sound off from the list on the subject.

Thanks all

Tom

 

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[THIN] OT - using pop up blocker in IE 7

Hi,

Have a weird one here and I’m not sure if it is by design or what.

I am allowing a user to manage pop ups i.e. they should be allowed to say always allow pop ups from this web site. Which is fine and if they open and close IE and you look the site is in the allowed list?

This list is created in the HKEY_Users..\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\New Windows\Allow  and lists them as REG_BINARY keys.

Problem is we use roaming profiles and when the user logs out it does not write this key back to the user’s ntuser.dat.

I thought it was a policy setting but when I use a local profile it stays and the key is there when the user logs back in so it doesn’t delete the key on log out.

Thanks

Ronnie

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[THIN] Re: Terminal Server License question - Domain function level impact

Chris,

 

I’ve been sniffing http://www.petri.co.il/understanding_function_levels_in_windows_2003_ad.htm

and as I expected no changes of the DFL nor FFL pertain to TS license servers.

If you have a workgroup license server, then your TS2003 server need an hardcoded entry in the registry to point to your License Server

Otherwise LDAP is used and the DS is queried for your license server.

 

As of the handbook of Brian Madden (Terminal Services for micorosoft windows server 2003)

If you enable a license policy setting on the license server namely Computer settings | adm templates | Windows Components | Terminal Services | Licensing

a local group (called Terminal Server computers) will be created on your SAM, if the License server is on an DC , the group will be created as an DLG (domain local group).

Only members of this group will be granted the option to hand out licenses on behalf of their connecting clients.

 

Regards,

 

 

Stefa Timmermans

 

 

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From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of christopher.walter@cgi.com
Sent: donderdag 5 februari 2009 19:54
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Terminal Server License question - Domain function level impact

 

If you are deploying Windows 2003 Terminal servers then you can have any Windows 2003 server run your license server.  Just point your Terminal servers to the Windows 2003 server for their licenses, then it doesn't matter what DFL you are at.

 

Chris

 

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From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Chris Strug
Sent: February 5, 2009 11:45 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Terminal Server License question - Domain function level impact

Hi guys,

First post to the thin lists so go easy on me! :)

Have a question regards issuing TS licenses and the impact of the DFL of the domain.

Currently our domain functional level is at Windows 2000 Native. All our TS servers are 2000 and clients are a mix of 2000 and XP.

It's looks as though we're going to be forced to deploy some 2003 TS servers in the near future so I'm looking at what we'll need to do in order to issue 2003 TSCALs? I'm assuming that the TS License server will have to be server 2003 but I'm not sure if the fact that we run a 2000 native DFL will make any difference?

In short, can we issue Server 2003 TSCALs from a domain with a functional level of Windows 2000 Native or would be have to deploy a 2003 DC and upgrade it to 2003 interim DFL first?

Many thanks

Chris.


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[THIN] Re: TS Gateway - OT?

The gateway works, we’ve been using it for a while, on occasional basis. It works quite nicely, in fact, but with basically no granularity; it remains that if you’re serving our the same apps to the same people then vanilla TS works fine – for small firms, it’s great.

 

For anything more complex, you will probably need an add-on. Ericom provide a freebie (Then you pay if you want load-balancing features). For my money using Provision’s...umm...vWorkspace (Recently renamed) is the direction we’re going as our ‘We don’t need Citrix’ solution – does everything we need for *waaaaaayyyyyyy* less money than Citrix.

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: 06 February 2009 04:29
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: TS Gateway - OT?

 

And it beats Citrix’s CSG by $0.00.

 

Citrix killer?  No…  There is still value that Citrix adds to Terminal Services above and beyond the stock product.  For smaller customers there is AE and for Medium to Enterprise there is XenApp Enterprise and Platinum.  For remote access, CSG is included in AE.  For larger customers there  is the CAG and AGE.

 

Joe

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:55 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: TS Gateway - OT?

 

It’s worth every penny it cost!

 

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85266

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@thinclient.net

 

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From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Tom Sorenson
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 7:40 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] TS Gateway - OT?

 

So it's been about a year that the MS TS Gateway has been around.  I've seen zero discussion of it on this board, I'm wondering what everyone's opinion is of it and if they have tested or implemented.  My architecture group seems to think it's a Citrix killer.  I don't.  I'm preparing my arguments now and would appreciate a sound off from the list on the subject.

Thanks all

Tom

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[THIN] Re: Citrix Fast Launch tool

Yeah this looks cool...unless you are in a farm with a couple hundred servers – don’t see how it would really work.

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Greg Reese
Sent: Friday, 6 February 2009 2:31 AM
To: Thin
Subject: [THIN] Citrix Fast Launch tool

 

http://community.citrix.com/display/xa/Citrix+Fast+Launch+Tool

Interesting little tool released this week.

Basically, it creates a hidden session to the server then when all other apps launch, they session share and thus start instantly.  There are some license and load balance implications to this.

I haven't loaded it yet.  has anyone else?

Greg

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[THIN] Re: TS Gateway - OT?

And it beats Citrix’s CSG by $0.00.

 

Citrix killer?  No…  There is still value that Citrix adds to Terminal Services above and beyond the stock product.  For smaller customers there is AE and for Medium to Enterprise there is XenApp Enterprise and Platinum.  For remote access, CSG is included in AE.  For larger customers there  is the CAG and AGE.

 

Joe

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:55 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: TS Gateway - OT?

 

It’s worth every penny it cost!

 

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85266

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@thinclient.net

 

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From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Tom Sorenson
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 7:40 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] TS Gateway - OT?

 

So it's been about a year that the MS TS Gateway has been around.  I've seen zero discussion of it on this board, I'm wondering what everyone's opinion is of it and if they have tested or implemented.  My architecture group seems to think it's a Citrix killer.  I don't.  I'm preparing my arguments now and would appreciate a sound off from the list on the subject.

Thanks all

Tom