Friday, September 26, 2008

[THIN] Nicholas Carr on Stephen Colbert

[THIN] Re: Storage recommendations/tips for Hper-V-based XenApp and other virtual servers

50k is very low for the capabilities you are describing, you may want to look at Datacore SAN melody software it will give you high performance for the iSCSI needs using standard i386 hardware and software.

 

There are cases where one iSCSI NIC is enough but a number of designs where more would be ideal. I would plan on extra nics, when you consider a management network, a production LAN network, possibly DMZ or other LAN segments, iSCSI, etc. it is pretty common to have at least 4 or more NICS in a virtualization host…

 

 

 

 

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85266

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@thinclient.net

 


From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Richard Waters
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 1:08 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Storage recommendations/tips for Hper-V-based XenApp and other virtual servers

 

I am going to be upgrading and moving all of my systems to virtual servers running on a Windows 2008 Hyper-V platform.  All of my servers are running Windows OS's.  After the move, all servers will be running either Windows 2003 R2 or Windows Server 2008.  Being new to virtualization and needing to make this change as soon as possible, I really could use some help figuring out some aspects of what to purchase.  This will be somehwere in the neighborhood of a $50,000 purchase.

 

My biggest questions relate to the best method for storing the VHD's for best performance and best cost.  I am looking at purchasing 4-5 servers with 8 processor cores and 32-64 GB's RAM.  I am looking at going with iSCSI for storage but am not sure how it would need to be configured for best performance.  I will be running one XenApp server on three physical boxes to start with and will be running Exchange 2007 in some kind of failsafe configuration.  I have started running Communications Server 2007 and hope to be able to implement full-blown Unified Communications some time in the near future.  These 3 services are where I am most concerned about getting great operating performance.

 

What kind of iSCSI storage system would work the best, and on the Hyper-V hosts, do I only need 1 iSCSI adapter or do I need to plan for multiple iSCSI adapters for performance reasons.

 

Does anyone know about the 3.6 or 5.4 terabyte HP Storageworks 1200r.  Would this provide great performance for a smaller operation such as mine and be able to host all of my VHD's with no noticeable performance hit, especially for the Citrix servers?

 

Anyone have an opinion on blade systems vs. traditional servers for a small operations such as mine?

 

Any insight regarding any aspect of this upgrade would be most helpful and greatly appreciated.

[THIN] Storage recommendations/tips for Hper-V-based XenApp and other virtual servers

I am going to be upgrading and moving all of my systems to virtual servers running on a Windows 2008 Hyper-V platform.  All of my servers are running Windows OS's.  After the move, all servers will be running either Windows 2003 R2 or Windows Server 2008.  Being new to virtualization and needing to make this change as soon as possible, I really could use some help figuring out some aspects of what to purchase.  This will be somehwere in the neighborhood of a $50,000 purchase.
 
My biggest questions relate to the best method for storing the VHD's for best performance and best cost.  I am looking at purchasing 4-5 servers with 8 processor cores and 32-64 GB's RAM.  I am looking at going with iSCSI for storage but am not sure how it would need to be configured for best performance.  I will be running one XenApp server on three physical boxes to start with and will be running Exchange 2007 in some kind of failsafe configuration.  I have started running Communications Server 2007 and hope to be able to implement full-blown Unified Communications some time in the near future.  These 3 services are where I am most concerned about getting great operating performance.
 
What kind of iSCSI storage system would work the best, and on the Hyper-V hosts, do I only need 1 iSCSI adapter or do I need to plan for multiple iSCSI adapters for performance reasons.
 
Does anyone know about the 3.6 or 5.4 terabyte HP Storageworks 1200r.  Would this provide great performance for a smaller operation such as mine and be able to host all of my VHD's with no noticeable performance hit, especially for the Citrix servers?
 
Anyone have an opinion on blade systems vs. traditional servers for a small operations such as mine?
 
Any insight regarding any aspect of this upgrade would be most helpful and greatly appreciated.

[THIN] Re: Quickbooks 2008 on CAE and W2k3

Wow, no toilet jokes yet, I thought you all would be over that one!!

 

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85266

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@thinclient.net

 


From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 8:53 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Quickbooks 2008 on CAE and W2k3

 

Well since I didn’t know what either a mutex or a semaphore was I found this and share it here:

 

http://geekswithblogs.net/shahed/archive/2006/06/09/81268.aspx

 

 

Mutex vs. Semaphore, what is the difference?

The Toilet Example  (c) Copyright 2005, Niclas Winquist ;)

 

 

Mutex:

 

Is a key to a toilet. One person can have the key - occupy the toilet - at the time. When finished, the person gives (frees) the key to the next person in the queue.

 

Officially: "Mutexes are typically used to serialise access to a section of  re-entrant code that cannot be executed concurrently by more than one thread. A mutex object only allows one thread into a controlled section, forcing other threads which attempt to gain access to that section to wait until the first thread has exited from that section."

Ref: Symbian Developer Library

 

(A mutex is really a semaphore with value 1.)

 

Semaphore:

 

Is the number of free identical toilet keys. Example, say we have four toilets with identical locks and keys. The semaphore count - the count of keys - is set to 4 at beginning (all four toilets are free), then the count value is decremented as people are coming in. If all toilets are full, ie. there are no free keys left, the semaphore count is 0. Now, when eq. one person leaves the toilet, semaphore is increased to 1 (one free key), and given to the next person in the queue.

 

Officially: "A semaphore restricts the number of simultaneous users of a shared resource up to a maximum number. Threads can request access to the resource (decrementing the semaphore), and can signal that they have finished using the resource (incrementing the semaphore)."

Ref: Symbian Developer Library

 

 

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85266

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@thinclient.net

 


From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Rick Mack
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 7:47 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Quickbooks 2008 on CAE and W2k3

 

Hi Gehan,

 

Quickbooks 2008/2007 uses a global mutex as a semaphore so that only one instance of QB will run.

 

I specificall covered how to handle the QB global mutex issue in my talk at Briforum 2008. You should be able to get my video from http://www.briforum.com/BriForum-2008-Chicago/session.asp?id=338

 

regards,

 

Rick

 

--
Ulrich Mack
Quest Software
Provision Networks Division

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:27 PM, <Gehan.DeSilva@rsmi.com.au> wrote:


Hello

Im most curious about this also as i have not yet been able to get this going.

Nick when you run Quickbooks with multiple users at the same time does it throw a message  "Quickbooks is already running"

Regards

____________________________________________________

Gehan De Silva

[THIN] Re: Quickbooks 2008 on CAE and W2k3

Well since I didn’t know what either a mutex or a semaphore was I found this and share it here:

 

http://geekswithblogs.net/shahed/archive/2006/06/09/81268.aspx

 

 

Mutex vs. Semaphore, what is the difference?

The Toilet Example  (c) Copyright 2005, Niclas Winquist ;)

 

 

Mutex:

 

Is a key to a toilet. One person can have the key - occupy the toilet - at the time. When finished, the person gives (frees) the key to the next person in the queue.

 

Officially: "Mutexes are typically used to serialise access to a section of  re-entrant code that cannot be executed concurrently by more than one thread. A mutex object only allows one thread into a controlled section, forcing other threads which attempt to gain access to that section to wait until the first thread has exited from that section."

Ref: Symbian Developer Library

 

(A mutex is really a semaphore with value 1.)

 

Semaphore:

 

Is the number of free identical toilet keys. Example, say we have four toilets with identical locks and keys. The semaphore count - the count of keys - is set to 4 at beginning (all four toilets are free), then the count value is decremented as people are coming in. If all toilets are full, ie. there are no free keys left, the semaphore count is 0. Now, when eq. one person leaves the toilet, semaphore is increased to 1 (one free key), and given to the next person in the queue.

 

Officially: "A semaphore restricts the number of simultaneous users of a shared resource up to a maximum number. Threads can request access to the resource (decrementing the semaphore), and can signal that they have finished using the resource (incrementing the semaphore)."

Ref: Symbian Developer Library

 

 

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85266

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@thinclient.net

 


From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Rick Mack
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 7:47 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Quickbooks 2008 on CAE and W2k3

 

Hi Gehan,

 

Quickbooks 2008/2007 uses a global mutex as a semaphore so that only one instance of QB will run.

 

I specificall covered how to handle the QB global mutex issue in my talk at Briforum 2008. You should be able to get my video from http://www.briforum.com/BriForum-2008-Chicago/session.asp?id=338

 

regards,

 

Rick

 

--
Ulrich Mack
Quest Software
Provision Networks Division

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:27 PM, <Gehan.DeSilva@rsmi.com.au> wrote:


Hello

Im most curious about this also as i have not yet been able to get this going.

Nick when you run Quickbooks with multiple users at the same time does it throw a message  "Quickbooks is already running"

Regards

____________________________________________________

Gehan De Silva

[THIN] Re: Quickbooks 2008 on CAE and W2k3


Hi Rick

I looked around but i couldnt see the link for the video.

Yes i do wear glasses :)

http://www.briforum.com/BriForum-2008-Chicago/session.asp?id=338


Cheers
____________________________________________________

Gehan De Silva



From: "Rick Mack" <ulrich.mack@gmail.com>
To: thin@freelists.org
Date: 26/09/2008 10:48 AM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Quickbooks 2008 on CAE and W2k3





Hi Gehan,
 
Quickbooks 2008/2007 uses a global mutex as a semaphore so that only one instance of QB will run.
 
I specificall covered how to handle the QB global mutex issue in my talk at Briforum 2008. You should be able to get my video from http://www.briforum.com/BriForum-2008-Chicago/session.asp?id=338
 
regards,
 
Rick
 
--
Ulrich Mack
Quest Software
Provision Networks Division


On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:27 PM, <Gehan.DeSilva@rsmi.com.au> wrote:

Hello


Im most curious about this also as i have not yet been able to get this going.


Nick when you run Quickbooks with multiple users at the same time does it throw a message  "Quickbooks is already running"


Regards


____________________________________________________

Gehan De Silva

Exceptional Service  Exceptional Results

Assurance - Business Advisory - Corporate Finance - Risk Management - Tax - Turnaround &  Insolvency

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Thursday, September 25, 2008

[THIN] Re: Quickbooks 2008 on CAE and W2k3

Hi Gehan,
 
Quickbooks 2008/2007 uses a global mutex as a semaphore so that only one instance of QB will run.
 
I specificall covered how to handle the QB global mutex issue in my talk at Briforum 2008. You should be able to get my video from http://www.briforum.com/BriForum-2008-Chicago/session.asp?id=338
 
regards,
 
Rick
 
--
Ulrich Mack
Quest Software
Provision Networks Division


On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:27 PM, <Gehan.DeSilva@rsmi.com.au> wrote:

Hello

Im most curious about this also as i have not yet been able to get this going.

Nick when you run Quickbooks with multiple users at the same time does it throw a message  "Quickbooks is already running"

Regards

____________________________________________________

Gehan De Silva


[THIN] Another Powerpoint of In depth features of XenServer 5

Barry Flanagan has posted another good PowerPoint that offers additional in depth features of Citrix XenServer 5. 
See:
http://community.citrix.com/blogs/citrite/barryf/2008/09/25/New+Features+of+XenServer+5+in+Depth

Also of interest is a link at the bottom of his post to a Citrix hosted site just on XenServer that contains videos and information about the product.

http://www.xenserver5.com/


Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

[THIN] Re: Tsreboot on Citrix Presentation Server 4.5 Advanced

I think that feature is only part of Enterprise…

 

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85266

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@thinclient.net

 


From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Toby
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 1:03 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Tsreboot on Citrix Presentation Server 4.5 Advanced

 

Hi List,

I use the tsreboot utility to restart my servers on a weekly basis. The utility is great, however, for some reason two of the 30 Citrix servers we have fail to reboot. There is nothing in the event logs to show that his has started/failed or anything remotely involving a request to restart.

Is anyone else using tsreboot and having a similar issue?

Many thanks
Toby

[THIN] Re: Details view in Windows Explorer on Citrix TS servers

If you look in the registery under HKCU, there is a key called ShellNoRoam. That is where most of the folder settings are stored.
 
ShellNoRoam means exactly what it says. The default value for the ShellNoRoam key indicates the last machine the user logged into. If a user logs in to a machine with a different name, Windows will delete the ShellNoRoam key. Very annoying.
 
I think I got it working once by writing logon and logoff scripts. I saved the ShellNoRoam key to a .reg file during logoff. During logon, I modified the Default value to point to the new server name and imported the .reg file. Seemed to work but there are timing issues since you need to import the .reg file after Windows deletes the ShellNoRoam key. I also found that we had to delete the user's profiles to get the script to work.

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Long, Brett (Noumea) <Brett.Long@valeinco.com> wrote:

I am pretty sure it's a bug in Windows 2003 (if that what you are using) as we have the same issues and have never been able to find a permanent solution.

We have given these instructions to users but have had mixed results.

 

1.Have the user open windows explorer

2. Change the view to how the user wants to see the folders

3. Go to Tools…Options and click the View tab. Scroll down and make sure "Remember each

folders view settings" is UNCHECKED

4. The click "Apply to all Folders'.

5. Click Yes to confirm the change.

6. The next time the user logs on the Citrix Farm the folder view will stay the same.

Note: this fix will only work for Windows Explorer. It will not work when opening folders from "My

Computer".

 

 

If anyone does have a fix I would be keen to hear it.

 

 

Regards...

 

Brett Long

 

Vale Inco

( Noumea (+687) 235458

( Noumea Mobile (+687) 792 885

( Brisbane Mobile (+61) 0407 759479

 

* brett.long@valeinco.com

 

 


From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Gehan.DeSilva@rsmi.com.au
Sent: Thursday, 25 September 2008 3:43 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Details view in Windows Explorer on Citrix TS servers

 


Hello

We use roaming profiles for our Citrix users .

I have an issue where a user sets Windows Explorer to Details view but the setting does not stick on the next logon.

Has anyone else come across this or know how to fix it ?

Cheers
____________________________________________________

Gehan De Silva

Exceptional Service  Exceptional Results

Assurance - Business Advisory - Corporate Finance - Risk Management - Tax - Turnaround &  Insolvency

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[THIN] RAM usage in plain text

Trying again in plain text (You will need your email window to be a certain width)
-----------------------------

Guys,
I've been doing a bit of research for my own purposes but which might be helpful for others, and I've got some gaps. I made a throwaway comment a week or so ago about how Office 2007 seemed to use less RAM under Windows 2008, and thought it would be helpful to quantify that.

I've therefore tested, not very scientifically, different versions (2003 and 2007) of Office, running under different TS OSes (2003/8, 32/64-bit). Please note that I only tested each app once, the platforms have different hardware on them, and different numbers of users plus other apps running on them, so these figures should definitely be taken with a pinch of salt.

This is also absolutely not an analysis of how an OS runs with 20, 50, or a hundred different sessions of the same App; I wasn't looking at Total Ram, just taking the reported figure out of Task Manager.

Also please note that these were running pure TS, no Citrix involved.

I also have gaps; if others could test to fill in those gaps this might become quite useful.

The obvious conclusion (With all caveats above) from this is that either Windows 2008 (?64-bit?) is vastly more efficient at handling Office 2007, *or* that it's Task Manager reports differently (?More accurately?) - perhaps cleverer people than I might comment?

32-bit 32-Bit 64-Bit 64-bit
Windows 2003 Windows 2008 Windows 2003 Windows 2008
Office 2007
Word 57992 15084
Excel 38360 11928
Powerpoint 40416 25548
Outlook 117216 17096

Office 2003
Word 34420 117828
Excel 24244 16156
Powerpoint 12952 17168
Outlook 20788 117716

Testing for Word, Excel, Powerpoint
-----------------------------------
Opened App
New Document
Typed word 'Test'
Forced Spell Check
Saved document
Checked RAM

Testing for Outlook
------------------
Opened App
Opened New Email
Typed Word Test
Used Gal to address to myself
Sent Email
Checked RAM

All tests run as Domain Admin with Local Admin Rights
In Office 2003, Outlook was using Word 2003
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[THIN] Re: Tsreboot on Citrix Presentation Server 4.5 Advanced

This solved a couple of issues for a client of mine

 

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930045

 

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Toby
Sent: 25 September 2008 09:03
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Tsreboot on Citrix Presentation Server 4.5 Advanced

 

Hi List,

I use the tsreboot utility to restart my servers on a weekly basis. The utility is great, however, for some reason two of the 30 Citrix servers we have fail to reboot. There is nothing in the event logs to show that his has started/failed or anything remotely involving a request to restart.

Is anyone else using tsreboot and having a similar issue?

Many thanks
Toby

[THIN] Tsreboot on Citrix Presentation Server 4.5 Advanced

Hi List,

I use the tsreboot utility to restart my servers on a weekly basis. The utility is great, however, for some reason two of the 30 Citrix servers we have fail to reboot. There is nothing in the event logs to show that his has started/failed or anything remotely involving a request to restart.

Is anyone else using tsreboot and having a similar issue?

Many thanks
Toby

[THIN] Re: Details view in Windows Explorer on Citrix TS servers

I am pretty sure it’s a bug in Windows 2003 (if that what you are using) as we have the same issues and have never been able to find a permanent solution.

We have given these instructions to users but have had mixed results.

 

1.Have the user open windows explorer

2. Change the view to how the user wants to see the folders

3. Go to Tools…Options and click the View tab. Scroll down and make sure “Remember each

folders view settings” is UNCHECKED

4. The click “Apply to all Folders’.

5. Click Yes to confirm the change.

6. The next time the user logs on the Citrix Farm the folder view will stay the same.

Note: this fix will only work for Windows Explorer. It will not work when opening folders from “My

Computer”.

 

 

If anyone does have a fix I would be keen to hear it.

 

 

Regards...

 

Brett Long

 

Vale Inco

( Noumea (+687) 235458

( Noumea Mobile (+687) 792 885

( Brisbane Mobile (+61) 0407 759479

 

* brett.long@valeinco.com

 

 


From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Gehan.DeSilva@rsmi.com.au
Sent: Thursday, 25 September 2008 3:43 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Details view in Windows Explorer on Citrix TS servers

 


Hello

We use roaming profiles for our Citrix users .

I have an issue where a user sets Windows Explorer to Details view but the setting does not stick on the next logon.

Has anyone else come across this or know how to fix it ?

Cheers
____________________________________________________

Gehan De Silva

Exceptional Service  Exceptional Results

Assurance - Business Advisory - Corporate Finance - Risk Management - Tax - Turnaround &  Insolvency

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[THIN] Re: W2k3/Citrix 4.0 Shadow Key not applying

I would not depend/use shadow keys to distribute changes to a user’s profiles.   In the long run, you’re better off scripting the changes.

 

Joe

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Stratton, Doug ISMC:EX
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:40 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: W2k3/Citrix 4.0 Shadow Key not applying

 

Well i have reinstalled the application and the shadow keys are now applying to new users but something else is now happening.

 

From what I have read it sounds like if I install the software on another server the shadow keys on that server will have a later data/time stamp.  Users logging into that server will get their keys updated if the timestamp on thiers is older, which it is.  This is not happening.

 

New profiles get the registry keys, users with existing keys not getting changes.

 

Must be something I am missing.  Any comments welcome.

 

Thanks

 


From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Stratton, Doug ISMC:EX
Sent: September 24, 2008 11:10 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] W2k3/Citrix 4.0 Shadow Key not applying

We have run into something odd that I have not seen before.
We are installing an application on our test server, Real Player.
It creates a bunch of keys in the Shadow key location (hklm\sw\ms\windows nt\currentversion\terminal server\install\software\RealNetworks).

But for some reason when I log in with a new user none of the keys get put in the current user profile.

It was working yesterday.  Today nothing gets copied in.  I delete the profile of the user.  Log in and the current user key has nothing for realplayer.

Any clue what could be causing this?

Regards,
Doug Stratton, Shared Service BC
Service Desk Email: 77000@gov.bc.ca
Service Desk Tel: (250)387-7000

 

[THIN] Details view in Windows Explorer on Citrix TS servers


Hello

We use roaming profiles for our Citrix users .

I have an issue where a user sets Windows Explorer to Details view but the setting does not stick on the next logon.

Has anyone else come across this or know how to fix it ?

Cheers
____________________________________________________

Gehan De Silva

Exceptional Service  Exceptional Results

Assurance - Business Advisory - Corporate Finance - Risk Management - Tax - Turnaround &  Insolvency

This Communication is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or copyright. You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited without the authority of the sender. If you have received this e-mail message in error or are not the intended recipient, please delete and destroy all copies and notify us immediately by return mail. Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states otherwise. If you no longer want to receive notifications, simply reply to this e-mail.

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Wednesday, September 24, 2008

[THIN] Re: W2k3/Citrix 4.0 Shadow Key not applying

Have you tried the rdt and sdt utilities posted at brian madden?
 
 
Another option is cloning.

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Stratton, Doug ISMC:EX <Doug.M.Stratton@gov.bc.ca> wrote:
Well i have reinstalled the application and the shadow keys are now applying to new users but something else is now happening.
 
From what I have read it sounds like if I install the software on another server the shadow keys on that server will have a later data/time stamp.  Users logging into that server will get their keys updated if the timestamp on thiers is older, which it is.  This is not happening.
 
New profiles get the registry keys, users with existing keys not getting changes.
 
Must be something I am missing.  Any comments welcome.
 
Thanks


From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Stratton, Doug ISMC:EX
Sent: September 24, 2008 11:10 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] W2k3/Citrix 4.0 Shadow Key not applying

We have run into something odd that I have not seen before.
We are installing an application on our test server, Real Player.
It creates a bunch of keys in the Shadow key location (hklm\sw\ms\windows nt\currentversion\terminal server\install\software\RealNetworks).

But for some reason when I log in with a new user none of the keys get put in the current user profile.

It was working yesterday.  Today nothing gets copied in.  I delete the profile of the user.  Log in and the current user key has nothing for realplayer.

Any clue what could be causing this?

Regards,
Doug Stratton, Shared Service BC
Service Desk Email: 77000@gov.bc.ca
Service Desk Tel: (250)387-7000



[THIN] Re: W2k3/Citrix 4.0 Shadow Key not applying

Well i have reinstalled the application and the shadow keys are now applying to new users but something else is now happening.
 
From what I have read it sounds like if I install the software on another server the shadow keys on that server will have a later data/time stamp.  Users logging into that server will get their keys updated if the timestamp on thiers is older, which it is.  This is not happening.
 
New profiles get the registry keys, users with existing keys not getting changes.
 
Must be something I am missing.  Any comments welcome.
 
Thanks


From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Stratton, Doug ISMC:EX
Sent: September 24, 2008 11:10 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] W2k3/Citrix 4.0 Shadow Key not applying

We have run into something odd that I have not seen before.
We are installing an application on our test server, Real Player.
It creates a bunch of keys in the Shadow key location (hklm\sw\ms\windows nt\currentversion\terminal server\install\software\RealNetworks).

But for some reason when I log in with a new user none of the keys get put in the current user profile.

It was working yesterday.  Today nothing gets copied in.  I delete the profile of the user.  Log in and the current user key has nothing for realplayer.

Any clue what could be causing this?

Regards,
Doug Stratton, Shared Service BC
Service Desk Email: 77000@gov.bc.ca
Service Desk Tel: (250)387-7000