Saturday, June 14, 2008

[THIN] Re: Assistance requested...

Not sure I follow?

I am asking some basic questions, trying to compare our fellow healthcare organizations rules, to be sure we are in check with everyone else. So long as you are using compliant rules, I see no issue sharing such information.

Chad Schneider
Systems Engineer
ThedaCare IT
920-735-7615
>>> Tim <timothylanderson@gmail.com> 06/13/08 4:31 PM >>>
Sorry Chad

I can't give you that info other than to say they are stringent. Anyone who
does, please don't include your organization name, lest this cause an RPE
(resume producing event) for you.

Cheers

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Chad Schneider (IT) <
Chad.M.Schneider@thedacare.org> wrote:

> I have been asked to get information from those in Healthcare IT,
> regarding your network password policies. We have some discussions going on
> about are we overly compliant, under complaint, what are others doing?
>
> What I am looking for is...
>
> Your network user account (AD) password rules....
> # of characters (min/max)
> Password Age (Min/max)
> Required characters (alpha/numeric/upper/lower/special/etc.)
> Password History
>
> Any assistance in this is greatly appreciated, as I need to put together a
> report of "our peers" for management.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Chad Schneider
> Systems Engineer
> ThedaCare IT
> 920-735-7615
>

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Posted by thinlist at 8:55 PM 0 comments

[THIN] Muglia Interview on Virtualization future

http://kenzig.blogspot.com/2008/06/bob-mugliaa-with-frank-gillett-of.html

--
Jim Kenzig
Microsoft MVP - Windows Server Presentation and Hosted Desktop Virtualization
Citrix Technology Professional
Blog: http://www.techblink.com
Posted by thinlist at 8:47 AM 0 comments

[THIN] Demo of Microsoft Enterprise Desktop Virtualization from TechEd

There is a demo from Teched of Microsofts VDI product called Microsoft Enterprise Desktop Virtualization (Kidaro) Look in the right column of the page under More Videos for the Desktop Virtualization link.
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/events/teched/default.mspx

--
Jim Kenzig
Microsoft MVP - Windows Server Presentation and Hosted Desktop Virtualization
Citrix Technology Professional
Blog: http://www.techblink.com
Posted by thinlist at 8:28 AM 0 comments

Friday, June 13, 2008

[THIN] Re: Assistance requested...

Sorry Chad

I can't give you that info other than to say they are stringent.  Anyone who does, please don't include your organization name, lest this cause an RPE (resume producing event) for you.

Cheers

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Chad Schneider (IT) <Chad.M.Schneider@thedacare.org> wrote:
I have been asked to get information from those in Healthcare IT, regarding your network password policies.  We have some discussions going on about are we overly compliant, under complaint, what are others doing?
 
What I am looking for is...
 
Your network user account (AD) password rules....
# of characters (min/max)
Password Age (Min/max)
Required characters (alpha/numeric/upper/lower/special/etc.)
Password History
 
Any assistance in this is greatly appreciated, as I need to put together a report of "our peers" for management.
 
Thanks!
 
 
Chad Schneider
Systems Engineer
ThedaCare IT
920-735-7615

Posted by thinlist at 5:31 PM 0 comments

[THIN] Assistance requested...

I have been asked to get information from those in Healthcare IT, regarding your network password policies.  We have some discussions going on about are we overly compliant, under complaint, what are others doing?
 
What I am looking for is...
 
Your network user account (AD) password rules....
# of characters (min/max)
Password Age (Min/max)
Required characters (alpha/numeric/upper/lower/special/etc.)
Password History
 
Any assistance in this is greatly appreciated, as I need to put together a report of "our peers" for management.
 
Thanks!
 
 
Chad Schneider
Systems Engineer
ThedaCare IT
920-735-7615
Posted by thinlist at 4:18 PM 0 comments

[THIN] Re: FW: Re: Performance of Citrix vs RDP for images

….definitely watching this space !!

 

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85266

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@thinclient.net

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Rick Mack
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 1:16 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: FW: Re: Performance of Citrix vs RDP for images

 

Hi People,

 

Provision Network's developers have pushed the boundaries a bit further in the RDP vs ICA story.

 

Patrick Rouse has a YouTube demo that shows what we can do at: 

They've told me that OpenGL and progressive display are next and not too far away. Admittedly what you're seeing is alpha/beta code, but it really shows what can be done.

 

I guess the most relevant point to make to the whole community is that the RDP (ours at any rate) vs ICA story is getting pretty interesting and it's definitely not one-sided anymore.

 

If you're comparing us to Citrix, it's important to note that Provision started by providing software to fix holes in the Citrix product. We may not yet have the core infrastructure to scale as far as Citrix, but we've covered all the pain points that Citrix have largely ignored and we've had them covered for a quite a while.

 

That's why we've got the best UPD solution on the market when you consider stuff like font handling and print quality. That's why we've got application restrictions, profile management, USB PDA support, scriptable time zone assignment, really good bi-directional audio, Softgrid integration etc.

 

Our lead in the VDI race means we support VMware, Parallels Virtuozzo, Virtual Iron, Microsoft Hyper-V and shortly SCVMM. Xen is there but pretty low down on the list of priorities.

 

Of course there's also a single integrated management console because you need to have a single point of contact to manage your virtual desktop infrastructure.

 

We don't do hardware and we don't have a cool name for our product, but we're totally focussed on continual improvement so we'll have the best virtual desktop solution on the market.

 

Watch this space :-)

 

regards,

 

Rick

--
Ulrich Mack
Quest Software
Provision Networks Division

 

 

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Jim Kenzig <jkenzig@gmail.com> wrote:

And AppPortal is really sweet.  I helped beta test and give suggestions to Peter to develop this.  We don't know but we were using it back in the 90's it was the first thing that could do Seamless apps with RDP.  I am sure it has come quite a long way since then.

Jim



 

Posted by thinlist at 12:12 PM 0 comments

[THIN] Re: FW: Re: Performance of Citrix vs RDP for images

Hi People,
 
Provision Network's developers have pushed the boundaries a bit further in the RDP vs ICA story.
 
Patrick Rouse has a YouTube demo that shows what we can do at: 
They've told me that OpenGL and progressive display are next and not too far away. Admittedly what you're seeing is alpha/beta code, but it really shows what can be done.
 
I guess the most relevant point to make to the whole community is that the RDP (ours at any rate) vs ICA story is getting pretty interesting and it's definitely not one-sided anymore.
 
If you're comparing us to Citrix, it's important to note that Provision started by providing software to fix holes in the Citrix product. We may not yet have the core infrastructure to scale as far as Citrix, but we've covered all the pain points that Citrix have largely ignored and we've had them covered for a quite a while.
 
That's why we've got the best UPD solution on the market when you consider stuff like font handling and print quality. That's why we've got application restrictions, profile management, USB PDA support, scriptable time zone assignment, really good bi-directional audio, Softgrid integration etc.
 
Our lead in the VDI race means we support VMware, Parallels Virtuozzo, Virtual Iron, Microsoft Hyper-V and shortly SCVMM. Xen is there but pretty low down on the list of priorities.
 
Of course there's also a single integrated management console because you need to have a single point of contact to manage your virtual desktop infrastructure.
 
We don't do hardware and we don't have a cool name for our product, but we're totally focussed on continual improvement so we'll have the best virtual desktop solution on the market.
 
Watch this space :-)
 
regards,
 
Rick
--
Ulrich Mack
Quest Software
Provision Networks Division
 
 
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Jim Kenzig <jkenzig@gmail.com> wrote:
And AppPortal is really sweet.  I helped beta test and give suggestions to Peter to develop this.  We don't know but we were using it back in the 90's it was the first thing that could do Seamless apps with RDP.  I am sure it has come quite a long way since then.
Jim


 
Posted by thinlist at 4:15 AM 0 comments

Thursday, June 12, 2008

[THIN] OT- MSAccess direction

Hello,

Sorry for the Off Topic request, but I was not sure where else to try, we are trying to do a task in MS Access that is beyond the basics, and not quite complex, if there is anyone out there will to give a little guidance please reply off-list. Thanks

 

Thank You

-Doug Rooney
Sonoma Tilemakers
IT Systems Administrator
7750 Bell Rd.
Windsor Ca, 95492
(707) 837-8177 X11
(707) 837-9472 FAX
it@sonomatilemakers.com

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jan
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:28 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

 

In my case it was because I hate the 4.5 console. The 4.0 console works much better for me. So, I upgraded the necessary servers and left the production machines alone.

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Steve Greenberg <steveg@thinclient.net> wrote:

OK, but why not just upgrade the 4.0 servers in that case?

 

 

Steve Greenberg

Error! Filename not specified.Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85266

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@thinclient.net

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jan
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:09 PM


To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

 

Mixing 4.0 and 4.5 is not a problem provided the datastore, data collector, and license server are running 4.5.

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Jason Patten <jasoncitrix@gmail.com> wrote:

oh.. well we have 4.5 across the board, but the 32 and 64 bit versions mixed in the farm.....

 

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Steve Greenberg <steveg@thinclient.net> wrote:

There seem to be two conversation going on at the same time. I would not mix 4.0 and 4.5 farms personally but I would mix 32 and 64 bit if the need was there….

 

 

Steve Greenberg

Error! Filename not specified.Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85266

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@thinclient.net

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Chad Schneider (IT)
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:34 AM


To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

 

If you install 4.5, the first to be installed should be the DC's and DataStore.

 

Chad Schneider
Systems Engineer
ThedaCare IT
920-735-7615

>>> On 6/12/2008 at 1:17 PM, <DPETERSO@DINSLAW.com> wrote:

Isn't there some risk of corrupting the 4.0 data store if you do things using the 4.5 consoles? I'm doing mine separately so haven't experienced it, but that was a warning I got from Brian Cambier at MTM.

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Greg Reese
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:48 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

technically, you can.  but take that with a grain of salt.  If you have trouble, the first thing you're gonna hear is that it is not a good idea.  That said, people have done it and the world didn't explode.

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:44 PM, George Wasgatt <gwasgatt@gmail.com> wrote:

If we can mix & match 32 bit and 64 bit can we mix and match 4.0 and 4.5 in the same farm?

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Chad Schneider (IT)
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:27 PM


To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

 

That I had not seen nor heard.....

 

Chad Schneider
Systems Engineer
ThedaCare IT
920-735-7615

>>> On 6/12/2008 at 11:10 AM, <joe.shonk@gmail.com> wrote:

Citrix recommends having a separate farm for 32-bit and 64-bits servers.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf
Of George Wasgatt
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:48 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

We have an existing all 32 bit 4.0 farm.  We are adding a new application
and have new 64 bit servers w/lots of memory & processors that we are
installing Citrix on.  If we went with 4.5 then would we need to set up a
separate farm?  I remember that being true for XP and earlier but don't know
if it applies to PM 4.0.  I suppose we could upgrade the 4.0 farm but we
weren't planning on that.

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf
Of Raffensberger, Stephen D
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:50 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

George,

The short answer is that you must use different media.

The longer answer is that Citrix has End-of-life 64 bit PS4.0. I believe
you can still download the installation media from mycitrix but you must
go to some obscure ftp site for the hotfixes.

If possible, avoid starting a new project with 64 bit 4.0.

Steve Raffensberger
Sovereign Bank Citrix Administrator
1125 Berkshire Boulevard
Wyomissing, PA 19610
Email: sraffens@sovereignbank.com

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On
Behalf Of George Wasgatt
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:39 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Presentation Server 4.0 question


Does the Presentation Server 4.0 media I've been using to install on 32
bit
Windows 2003 OS servers install on a Windows 2003 64 bit OS or is there
different media I need to download?

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Posted by thinlist at 8:25 PM 0 comments

[THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

In my case it was because I hate the 4.5 console. The 4.0 console works much better for me. So, I upgraded the necessary servers and left the production machines alone.

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Steve Greenberg <steveg@thinclient.net> wrote:

OK, but why not just upgrade the 4.0 servers in that case?

 

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85266

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@thinclient.net

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jan
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:09 PM


To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

 

Mixing 4.0 and 4.5 is not a problem provided the datastore, data collector, and license server are running 4.5.

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Jason Patten <jasoncitrix@gmail.com> wrote:

oh.. well we have 4.5 across the board, but the 32 and 64 bit versions mixed in the farm.....

 

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Steve Greenberg <steveg@thinclient.net> wrote:

There seem to be two conversation going on at the same time. I would not mix 4.0 and 4.5 farms personally but I would mix 32 and 64 bit if the need was there….

 

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85266

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@thinclient.net

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Chad Schneider (IT)
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:34 AM


To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

 

If you install 4.5, the first to be installed should be the DC's and DataStore.

 

Chad Schneider
Systems Engineer
ThedaCare IT
920-735-7615

>>> On 6/12/2008 at 1:17 PM, <DPETERSO@DINSLAW.com> wrote:

Isn't there some risk of corrupting the 4.0 data store if you do things using the 4.5 consoles? I'm doing mine separately so haven't experienced it, but that was a warning I got from Brian Cambier at MTM.

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Greg Reese
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:48 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

technically, you can.  but take that with a grain of salt.  If you have trouble, the first thing you're gonna hear is that it is not a good idea.  That said, people have done it and the world didn't explode.

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:44 PM, George Wasgatt <gwasgatt@gmail.com> wrote:

If we can mix & match 32 bit and 64 bit can we mix and match 4.0 and 4.5 in the same farm?

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Chad Schneider (IT)
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:27 PM


To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

 

That I had not seen nor heard.....

 

Chad Schneider
Systems Engineer
ThedaCare IT
920-735-7615

>>> On 6/12/2008 at 11:10 AM, <joe.shonk@gmail.com> wrote:

Citrix recommends having a separate farm for 32-bit and 64-bits servers.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
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Of George Wasgatt
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:48 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

We have an existing all 32 bit 4.0 farm.  We are adding a new application
and have new 64 bit servers w/lots of memory & processors that we are
installing Citrix on.  If we went with 4.5 then would we need to set up a
separate farm?  I remember that being true for XP and earlier but don't know
if it applies to PM 4.0.  I suppose we could upgrade the 4.0 farm but we
weren't planning on that.

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf
Of Raffensberger, Stephen D
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:50 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

George,

The short answer is that you must use different media.

The longer answer is that Citrix has End-of-life 64 bit PS4.0. I believe
you can still download the installation media from mycitrix but you must
go to some obscure ftp site for the hotfixes.

If possible, avoid starting a new project with 64 bit 4.0.

Steve Raffensberger
Sovereign Bank Citrix Administrator
1125 Berkshire Boulevard
Wyomissing, PA 19610
Email: sraffens@sovereignbank.com

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On
Behalf Of George Wasgatt
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:39 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Presentation Server 4.0 question


Does the Presentation Server 4.0 media I've been using to install on 32
bit
Windows 2003 OS servers install on a Windows 2003 64 bit OS or is there
different media I need to download?

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Posted by thinlist at 5:27 PM 0 comments

[THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

OK, but why not just upgrade the 4.0 servers in that case?

 

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85266

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@thinclient.net

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jan
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 2:09 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

 

Mixing 4.0 and 4.5 is not a problem provided the datastore, data collector, and license server are running 4.5.

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Jason Patten <jasoncitrix@gmail.com> wrote:

oh.. well we have 4.5 across the board, but the 32 and 64 bit versions mixed in the farm.....

 

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Steve Greenberg <steveg@thinclient.net> wrote:

There seem to be two conversation going on at the same time. I would not mix 4.0 and 4.5 farms personally but I would mix 32 and 64 bit if the need was there….

 

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85266

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@thinclient.net

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Chad Schneider (IT)
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:34 AM


To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

 

If you install 4.5, the first to be installed should be the DC's and DataStore.

 

Chad Schneider
Systems Engineer
ThedaCare IT
920-735-7615

>>> On 6/12/2008 at 1:17 PM, <DPETERSO@DINSLAW.com> wrote:

Isn't there some risk of corrupting the 4.0 data store if you do things using the 4.5 consoles? I'm doing mine separately so haven't experienced it, but that was a warning I got from Brian Cambier at MTM.

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Greg Reese
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:48 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

technically, you can.  but take that with a grain of salt.  If you have trouble, the first thing you're gonna hear is that it is not a good idea.  That said, people have done it and the world didn't explode.

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:44 PM, George Wasgatt <gwasgatt@gmail.com> wrote:

If we can mix & match 32 bit and 64 bit can we mix and match 4.0 and 4.5 in the same farm?

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Chad Schneider (IT)
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:27 PM


To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

 

That I had not seen nor heard.....

 

Chad Schneider
Systems Engineer
ThedaCare IT
920-735-7615

>>> On 6/12/2008 at 11:10 AM, <joe.shonk@gmail.com> wrote:

Citrix recommends having a separate farm for 32-bit and 64-bits servers.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
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Of George Wasgatt
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:48 AM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

We have an existing all 32 bit 4.0 farm.  We are adding a new application
and have new 64 bit servers w/lots of memory & processors that we are
installing Citrix on.  If we went with 4.5 then would we need to set up a
separate farm?  I remember that being true for XP and earlier but don't know
if it applies to PM 4.0.  I suppose we could upgrade the 4.0 farm but we
weren't planning on that.

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Of Raffensberger, Stephen D
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:50 AM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

George,

The short answer is that you must use different media.

The longer answer is that Citrix has End-of-life 64 bit PS4.0. I believe
you can still download the installation media from mycitrix but you must
go to some obscure ftp site for the hotfixes.

If possible, avoid starting a new project with 64 bit 4.0.

Steve Raffensberger
Sovereign Bank Citrix Administrator
1125 Berkshire Boulevard
Wyomissing, PA 19610
Email: sraffens@sovereignbank.com

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:39 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Presentation Server 4.0 question


Does the Presentation Server 4.0 media I've been using to install on 32
bit
Windows 2003 OS servers install on a Windows 2003 64 bit OS or is there
different media I need to download?

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[THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

Mixing 4.0 and 4.5 is not a problem provided the datastore, data collector, and license server are running 4.5.

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Jason Patten <jasoncitrix@gmail.com> wrote:
oh.. well we have 4.5 across the board, but the 32 and 64 bit versions mixed in the farm.....


On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Steve Greenberg <steveg@thinclient.net> wrote:

There seem to be two conversation going on at the same time. I would not mix 4.0 and 4.5 farms personally but I would mix 32 and 64 bit if the need was there….

 

 

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From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Chad Schneider (IT)
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:34 AM


To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

 

If you install 4.5, the first to be installed should be the DC's and DataStore.

 

Chad Schneider
Systems Engineer
ThedaCare IT
920-735-7615

>>> On 6/12/2008 at 1:17 PM, <DPETERSO@DINSLAW.com> wrote:

Isn't there some risk of corrupting the 4.0 data store if you do things using the 4.5 consoles? I'm doing mine separately so haven't experienced it, but that was a warning I got from Brian Cambier at MTM.

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Greg Reese
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:48 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

technically, you can.  but take that with a grain of salt.  If you have trouble, the first thing you're gonna hear is that it is not a good idea.  That said, people have done it and the world didn't explode.

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:44 PM, George Wasgatt <gwasgatt@gmail.com> wrote:

If we can mix & match 32 bit and 64 bit can we mix and match 4.0 and 4.5 in the same farm?

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Chad Schneider (IT)
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:27 PM


To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

 

That I had not seen nor heard.....

 

Chad Schneider
Systems Engineer
ThedaCare IT
920-735-7615

>>> On 6/12/2008 at 11:10 AM, <joe.shonk@gmail.com> wrote:

Citrix recommends having a separate farm for 32-bit and 64-bits servers.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:48 AM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

We have an existing all 32 bit 4.0 farm.  We are adding a new application
and have new 64 bit servers w/lots of memory & processors that we are
installing Citrix on.  If we went with 4.5 then would we need to set up a
separate farm?  I remember that being true for XP and earlier but don't know
if it applies to PM 4.0.  I suppose we could upgrade the 4.0 farm but we
weren't planning on that.

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf
Of Raffensberger, Stephen D
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:50 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Presentation Server 4.0 question

George,

The short answer is that you must use different media.

The longer answer is that Citrix has End-of-life 64 bit PS4.0. I believe
you can still download the installation media from mycitrix but you must
go to some obscure ftp site for the hotfixes.

If possible, avoid starting a new project with 64 bit 4.0.

Steve Raffensberger
Sovereign Bank Citrix Administrator
1125 Berkshire Boulevard
Wyomissing, PA 19610
Email: sraffens@sovereignbank.com

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of George Wasgatt
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:39 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Presentation Server 4.0 question


Does the Presentation Server 4.0 media I've been using to install on 32
bit
Windows 2003 OS servers install on a Windows 2003 64 bit OS or is there
different media I need to download?

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