ThinList Blog: 2008-10-12

Saturday, October 18, 2008

[THIN] Re: IMA Performance and Resiliency Enhancements in Hotfix Rollup Pack 3 for XenApp 5.0 and Presentation Server 4.5

Or does it mean that everyone with a large farm was not resilent or performant before?

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

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From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Greg Reese
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 2:01 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: IMA Performance and Resiliency Enhancements in Hotfix Rollup Pack 3 for XenApp 5.0 and Presentation Server 4.5

"improves resiliency of large server farms"

i guess that means all of us with small farms are out of luck.

On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Andrew Wood <andrew.wood@gilwood-cs.co.uk> wrote:

"Hotfix Rollup Pack 3 for XenApp 5.0 for Windows Server 2003 and Presentation Server 4.5 for Windows Server 2003 (32-bit and 64-bit Editions) provides numerous enhancements to the Independent Management Architecture (IMA) Service to improve the performance and resiliency of large server farms. This article describes the enhancements included in Hotfix Rollup Pack 3."

http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX118658

Andrew

Gilwood CS Ltd

Registered Office : Mount Ashbrooke, Holmland Buildings, Tunstall Road, Sunderland, UK, SR2 7RR. No. 6099397 England

[THIN] Re: IMA Performance and Resiliency Enhancements in Hotfix Rollup Pack 3 for XenApp 5.0 and Presentation Server 4.5

"improves resiliency of large server farms"

i guess that means all of us with small farms are out of luck.

On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Andrew Wood <andrew.wood@gilwood-cs.co.uk> wrote:

"Hotfix Rollup Pack 3 for XenApp 5.0 for Windows Server 2003 and Presentation Server 4.5 for Windows Server 2003 (32-bit and 64-bit Editions) provides numerous enhancements to the Independent Management Architecture (IMA) Service to improve the performance and resiliency of large server farms. This article describes the enhancements included in Hotfix Rollup Pack 3."

http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX118658

Andrew

Gilwood CS Ltd

Registered Office : Mount Ashbrooke, Holmland Buildings, Tunstall Road, Sunderland, UK, SR2 7RR. No. 6099397 England

[THIN] IMA Performance and Resiliency Enhancements in Hotfix Rollup Pack 3 for XenApp 5.0 and Presentation Server 4.5

“Hotfix Rollup Pack 3 for XenApp 5.0 for Windows Server 2003 and Presentation Server 4.5 for Windows Server 2003 (32-bit and 64-bit Editions) provides numerous enhancements to the Independent Management Architecture (IMA) Service to improve the performance and resiliency of large server farms. This article describes the enhancements included in Hotfix Rollup Pack 3.”

http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX118658

Andrew

Gilwood CS Ltd

Registered Office : Mount Ashbrooke, Holmland Buildings, Tunstall Road, Sunderland, UK, SR2 7RR. No. 6099397 England

[THIN] Off topic: Halloween

this looks like a blast. Although I am sure all of you could figure out how to do it without a mac. :^)

http://www.switched.com/2008/10/17/hallowindow-rig-turns-your-home-into-a-haunted-house/

Friday, October 17, 2008

[THIN] Re: Citrix Local Account Passwords

the worst one is out there with you now.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:

anyone in particular that you're thinking of? :)

On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:

government? Only government IA assholes could throw a fit over something like this.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Tim <timothylanderson@gmail.com> wrote:

My security team is throwing a fit over an exception I filed for Citrix local accounts to never have their password changed. I'm hoping the list can give me some additional ammunition.

Ctx_ConfigMgr
Ctx_SmaUser
ctx_cpsvcuser
ctx_cpuuser

All have system controlled passwords. Does anyone know definitively the password strength used and whether the system changes the password on its own periodically?

TIA

[THIN] Re: OT: Logon with variable question

You should be able to do this fairly easily… You could have Altiris run a script that launches PSEXEC script using your local admin credentials. If PSEXEC reports back an error then have your Altiris script exit with an exit code. You’ll be able take that exit code and do the next task accordingly.

Joe

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Adam Granatela
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 2:49 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Logon with variable question

Trying to lose my mind?

Trying to validate that a password change has worked successfully, if you can believe that.

Management has dictated that all local admin passwords on all servers need to be changed. Management also wants a list of all servers that the password change didn't work on. Management insists we use Altiris for this.

Altiris job 1: runs as a local sysetm account...runs pspasswd from MS/sysinternals to change the password for our renamed sysadmin account. There's no way to report back to Altiris whether this worked or not. Altiris = stab me in the eye with a wooden spoon, just if the job kicked off ok or not. So in theory Altiris could kick off the command, report back that it worked fine, but in reality the pspasswrd command failed.

Altiris job 2: send a "dummy" job to each server, but have it login with the new password for the local sys admin. That way the ones that do fail end up failing as a direct result of the new password not working, and we have our remediation list.

Altiris is going to give me an ulcer.

Before we get any further let me say that I have some working scripts with logs that will give me all the info I need, but since these can't be run through Altiris, I'm not allowed to use them. So, as much as I'd like to discuss the 57,304 ways that are better to change passwords on 1500 servers other than Altiris, I simply can't. Did I mention that in some language Altiris is the word for spawn of the devil?

So there it is...The good news is that the building has a clock tower that goes up a good 18 floors. If I time my swan dive just right I think I can create a spectacular traffic accident.

Adam

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@gmail.com> wrote:

What exactly are you trying to do that you need to be logged into the console as a local administrator instead of an administrator on the domain?

Joe

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Adam Granatela
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 1:58 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Logon with variable question

Hi thanks for the reply. What I'm looking to do is fire off a job from Altiris but I want it to login with the local administrator for each server.

In Altiris there's a "user domain" box that has to have something in it (i.e., it won't work if it is left blank), and then username/password. For everything done in our environment with Altiris we either use a service account, a domain admin account, or just set it to "system account".

However, for this one I want it to specifically login with the local administrator account for each machine. So far none of the variables have worked. So then I went to the local console of a machine and tried various logon methods and found that even there, %computername%\adamg or %userdomain%\adamg don't work, even though if I login with adamg/password/computername on their respective lines in the logon dialog, when I go to look at system variables, both of those are set to the current computer name.

Any other ideas?

Adam

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Raffensberger, Stephen D <sraffens@sovereignbank.com> wrote:

Adam,

I fight the opposite battle but you can probably use what I use.

Set HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\DefaultDomainName to your "server1" name.

Then just login with a simple adamg and it will default to server1\adamg.

Actually, all you have to do is log on at the physical console using a local account and it will switch this for you.

Trouble is, whenever someone else logs onto the console using the domain, it will reverse it for you. I periodically run a batch file that sets it the way I want it.

HTH

Steve Raffensberger

Citrix Administrator

Sovereign Bank

1125 Berkshire Boulevard

Wyomissing, PA 19610

email: sraffens@sovereignbank.com

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Adam Granatela
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 4:35 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] OT: Logon with variable question

Hey everyone, hope all is well. I have another strange request that I was wondering if anyone has any insight on.

I'm looking for a way to use a variable to pull in the current computer name of a machine, but at login time.

In a standard 3 line Windows 2000/2003 server login screen I can login with something like:

server1\adamg
password
<third line for domain/local machine is grayed out>

Is there any way I can use a variable instead of "server1" up there so that the current servername is put in? I've tried:

%computername%\adamg
%userdomain%\adamg

and a few other things including double %%, .\adamg, and quotes in various places. If anyone wants an explanation as to why I need this I can go into that, but I've narrowed things down to the point where if I could pull in the current servername using a variable that it will give me everything I need. Any ideas? Thanks!

Adam

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[THIN] Re: Citrix on VMWare

I have heard that XenServer only takes a 20-25% performance hit. We have
multiple Citrix VM's per hosts in addition to other VM's. Definelty worth
looking at XenServer.

Original Message:
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From: Joe Shonk joe.shonk@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:04:56 -0700
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix on VMWare

Half is pretty bad... XenApp runs pretty good on XenServer platform. And
if you believe Citrix's engineer it is a 20% performance cost with 32 bit
and 8% with 64 bit... Those are 1 to 1 (1 VM per Host) numbers, you
should be able to reduce the 20% performance cost by running multiple
instances.

Joe

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Of msemon@ont.com
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 12:08 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix on VMWare

Presentation server works fine on ESX. The only problem is the
virtualization hit. You are only going to get about half as many users on
the Citrix vm as compared to physical.

-Mike

Original Message:
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From: GTaylor@rcrh.org
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:42:20 -0600
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix on VMWare

Actually I have 6 or 7 PS 4.5 servers running as VMs, but they are low
usage, more utility type servers. The main section of my farm is 34 IBM
HS21 blades and I'll be adding at least 20 more in the near future. They
run a couple intensive apps, that with dual quad cores and 4gig I can get
about 20 users per server with good performance. I'm wondering if I could
expect the same performance out of a beefy VM.

George Taylor
Systems Programmer
Regional Health Inc.

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On
Behalf Of Harry Singh
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 12:08 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix on VMWare

I actually was just about to write this list with the same qeustion.

Thanks George.

I'm looking at migrating an old EOL dell 2650 to Xenapp 4.0 as a VM.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 11:11 AM,
<GTaylor@rcrh.org<mailto:GTaylor@rcrh.org>> wrote:

I'm curious how many folks are Xenapp servers as VMs with VMWare ESX? What
is the performance and stability like?

Thanks,

George Taylor

Systems Programmer

Regional Health Inc.

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[THIN] Re: Citrix Local Account Passwords

anyone in particular that you're thinking of? :)

On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:

government? Only government IA assholes could throw a fit over something like this.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Tim <timothylanderson@gmail.com> wrote:

My security team is throwing a fit over an exception I filed for Citrix local accounts to never have their password changed. I'm hoping the list can give me some additional ammunition.

Ctx_ConfigMgr
Ctx_SmaUser
ctx_cpsvcuser
ctx_cpuuser

All have system controlled passwords. Does anyone know definitively the password strength used and whether the system changes the password on its own periodically?

TIA

[THIN] Re: OT: Logon with variable question

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@gmail.com> wrote:

What exactly are you trying to do that you need to be logged into the console as a local administrator instead of an administrator on the domain?

Joe

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Adam Granatela
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 1:58 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Logon with variable question

Hi thanks for the reply. What I'm looking to do is fire off a job from Altiris but I want it to login with the local administrator for each server.

In Altiris there's a "user domain" box that has to have something in it (i.e., it won't work if it is left blank), and then username/password. For everything done in our environment with Altiris we either use a service account, a domain admin account, or just set it to "system account".

However, for this one I want it to specifically login with the local administrator account for each machine. So far none of the variables have worked. So then I went to the local console of a machine and tried various logon methods and found that even there, %computername%\adamg or %userdomain%\adamg don't work, even though if I login with adamg/password/computername on their respective lines in the logon dialog, when I go to look at system variables, both of those are set to the current computer name.

Any other ideas?

Adam

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Raffensberger, Stephen D <sraffens@sovereignbank.com> wrote:

Adam,

I fight the opposite battle but you can probably use what I use.

Set HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\DefaultDomainName to your "server1" name.

Then just login with a simple adamg and it will default to server1\adamg.

Actually, all you have to do is log on at the physical console using a local account and it will switch this for you.

Trouble is, whenever someone else logs onto the console using the domain, it will reverse it for you. I periodically run a batch file that sets it the way I want it.

HTH

Steve Raffensberger

Citrix Administrator

Sovereign Bank

1125 Berkshire Boulevard

Wyomissing, PA 19610

email: sraffens@sovereignbank.com

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Adam Granatela
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 4:35 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] OT: Logon with variable question

Hey everyone, hope all is well. I have another strange request that I was wondering if anyone has any insight on.

I'm looking for a way to use a variable to pull in the current computer name of a machine, but at login time.

In a standard 3 line Windows 2000/2003 server login screen I can login with something like:

server1\adamg
password
<third line for domain/local machine is grayed out>

Is there any way I can use a variable instead of "server1" up there so that the current servername is put in? I've tried:

%computername%\adamg
%userdomain%\adamg

and a few other things including double %%, .\adamg, and quotes in various places. If anyone wants an explanation as to why I need this I can go into that, but I've narrowed things down to the point where if I could pull in the current servername using a variable that it will give me everything I need. Any ideas? Thanks!

Adam

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[THIN] Re: Citrix Local Account Passwords

Robert,

Exactly, what a pain and on 100+ servers around the world.

Greg,
Not government, but government regulated.

I'm hoping someone can chime in with something I can use to avoid having to go through such pain.

Thanks

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:

government? Only government IA assholes could throw a fit over something like this.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Tim <timothylanderson@gmail.com> wrote:

My security team is throwing a fit over an exception I filed for Citrix local accounts to never have their password changed. I'm hoping the list can give me some additional ammunition.

Ctx_ConfigMgr
Ctx_SmaUser
ctx_cpsvcuser
ctx_cpuuser

All have system controlled passwords. Does anyone know definitively the password strength used and whether the system changes the password on its own periodically?

TIA

[THIN] Re: OT: Logon with variable question

What exactly are you trying to do that you need to be logged into the console as a local administrator instead of an administrator on the domain?

Joe

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Raffensberger, Stephen D <sraffens@sovereignbank.com> wrote:

Adam,

I fight the opposite battle but you can probably use what I use.

Set HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\DefaultDomainName to your "server1" name.

Then just login with a simple adamg and it will default to server1\adamg.

Actually, all you have to do is log on at the physical console using a local account and it will switch this for you.

Trouble is, whenever someone else logs onto the console using the domain, it will reverse it for you. I periodically run a batch file that sets it the way I want it.

HTH

Steve Raffensberger

Citrix Administrator

Sovereign Bank

1125 Berkshire Boulevard

Wyomissing, PA 19610

email: sraffens@sovereignbank.com

[THIN] Re: OT: Logon with variable question

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Raffensberger, Stephen D <sraffens@sovereignbank.com> wrote:

Adam,

I fight the opposite battle but you can probably use what I use.

Set HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\DefaultDomainName to your "server1" name.

Then just login with a simple adamg and it will default to server1\adamg.

Actually, all you have to do is log on at the physical console using a local account and it will switch this for you.

Trouble is, whenever someone else logs onto the console using the domain, it will reverse it for you. I periodically run a batch file that sets it the way I want it.

HTH

Steve Raffensberger

Citrix Administrator

Sovereign Bank

1125 Berkshire Boulevard

Wyomissing, PA 19610

email: sraffens@sovereignbank.com

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Adam Granatela
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 4:35 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] OT: Logon with variable question

Hey everyone, hope all is well. I have another strange request that I was wondering if anyone has any insight on.

I'm looking for a way to use a variable to pull in the current computer name of a machine, but at login time.

In a standard 3 line Windows 2000/2003 server login screen I can login with something like:

server1\adamg
password
<third line for domain/local machine is grayed out>

Is there any way I can use a variable instead of "server1" up there so that the current servername is put in? I've tried:

%computername%\adamg
%userdomain%\adamg

and a few other things including double %%, .\adamg, and quotes in various places. If anyone wants an explanation as to why I need this I can go into that, but I've narrowed things down to the point where if I could pull in the current servername using a variable that it will give me everything I need. Any ideas? Thanks!

Adam

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[THIN] Re: OT: Logon with variable question

Adam,

I fight the opposite battle but you can probably use what I use.

Set HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon\DefaultDomainName to your “server1” name.

Then just login with a simple adamg and it will default to server1\adamg.

Actually, all you have to do is log on at the physical console using a local account and it will switch this for you.

Trouble is, whenever someone else logs onto the console using the domain, it will reverse it for you. I periodically run a batch file that sets it the way I want it.

HTH

Steve Raffensberger

Citrix Administrator

Sovereign Bank

1125 Berkshire Boulevard

Wyomissing, PA 19610

email: sraffens@sovereignbank.com

[THIN] OT: Logon with variable question

[THIN] Re: Citrix on VMWare

Joe

Presentation server works fine on ESX. The only problem is the
virtualization hit. You are only going to get about half as many users on
the Citrix vm as compared to physical.

-Mike

Original Message:
-----------------
From: GTaylor@rcrh.org
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:42:20 -0600
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix on VMWare

George Taylor
Systems Programmer
Regional Health Inc.

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On
Behalf Of Harry Singh
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 12:08 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix on VMWare

I actually was just about to write this list with the same qeustion.

Thanks George.

I'm looking at migrating an old EOL dell 2650 to Xenapp 4.0 as a VM.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 11:11 AM,
<GTaylor@rcrh.org<mailto:GTaylor@rcrh.org>> wrote:

I'm curious how many folks are Xenapp servers as VMs with VMWare ESX? What
is the performance and stability like?

Thanks,

George Taylor

Systems Programmer

Regional Health Inc.

________________________________

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in partnership with the communities we serve.

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[THIN] Re: SolarWinds VM Monitor

That did it, thanks.

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Boatright
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 8:06 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: SolarWinds VM Monitor

By default SNMP is turned off on ESX servers.

Make sure SNMP is running:

# service snmpd status

To start it

# service snmpd start

You can verify the snmp community name in /etc/snmp/snmpd.conf. By default it’s public.

You need to open port 161 on the ESX server. Check in virtual center under configuration -> security profile. Make sure SNMP is listed.

Kevin

From: "Steve Snyder" [mailto:kwajalein@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 3:58 PM
To: <thin@freelists.org>
Subject: [THIN] Re: SolarWinds VM Monitor

I tried it too and it won't speak to my esx servers too - says it doesn't resond to the community string. Went on my orion server and it's talking to them with the same string.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 7:33 AM, George Wasgatt <gwasgatt@gmail.com> wrote:

I signed up for the newsletter and downloaded the product. I've installed
it on a Win2003 server but it won't talk to my ESX servers since apparently
the ESX servers do not have SNMP turned on. Has anyone found the support
forum for this new product yet? I can't seem to locate it.

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[THIN] Re: Citrix Local Account Passwords

government? Only government IA assholes could throw a fit over something like this.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Tim <timothylanderson@gmail.com> wrote:

My security team is throwing a fit over an exception I filed for Citrix local accounts to never have their password changed. I'm hoping the list can give me some additional ammunition.

Ctx_ConfigMgr
Ctx_SmaUser
ctx_cpsvcuser
ctx_cpuuser

All have system controlled passwords. Does anyone know definitively the password strength used and whether the system changes the password on its own periodically?

TIA

[THIN] Re: Citrix on VMWare

Presentation server works fine on ESX. The only problem is the
virtualization hit. You are only going to get about half as many users on
the Citrix vm as compared to physical.

-Mike

Original Message:
-----------------
From: GTaylor@rcrh.org
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:42:20 -0600
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix on VMWare

George Taylor
Systems Programmer
Regional Health Inc.

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On
Behalf Of Harry Singh
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 12:08 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix on VMWare

I actually was just about to write this list with the same qeustion.

Thanks George.

I'm looking at migrating an old EOL dell 2650 to Xenapp 4.0 as a VM.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 11:11 AM,
<GTaylor@rcrh.org<mailto:GTaylor@rcrh.org>> wrote:

I'm curious how many folks are Xenapp servers as VMs with VMWare ESX? What
is the performance and stability like?

Thanks,

George Taylor

Systems Programmer

Regional Health Inc.

________________________________

Regional Health's mission is to provide and support health care excellence
in partnership with the communities we serve.

________________________________

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[THIN] Re: Citrix Local Account Passwords

>All have system controlled passwords. Does anyone know definitively the password strength used and whether the system changes the password on its own periodically?

Tim,

Great question. I don't know what the password strength is, but you could check to see if the password is changed periodically by dumping the hash of the passwords occasionally and seeing if it changes.

I know Citrix has a tool to recreate the SMA user so for that one at least you could change it periodically, but what a pain....

[THIN] Re: Citrix on VMWare

Actually I have 6 or 7 PS 4.5 servers running as VMs, but they are low usage, more utility type servers. The main section of my farm is 34 IBM HS21 blades and I'll be adding at least 20 more in the near future. They run a couple intensive apps, that with dual quad cores and 4gig I can get about 20 users per server with good performance. I'm wondering if I could expect the same performance out of a beefy VM.

George Taylor

Systems Programmer

Regional Health Inc.

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Harry Singh
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 12:08 PM
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I actually was just about to write this list with the same qeustion.

Thanks George.

I'm looking at migrating an old EOL dell 2650 to Xenapp 4.0 as a VM.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 11:11 AM, <GTaylor@rcrh.org> wrote:

I'm curious how many folks are Xenapp servers as VMs with VMWare ESX? What is the performance and stability like?

Thanks,

George Taylor

Systems Programmer

Regional Health Inc.

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[THIN] Re: Citrix on VMWare

I’ve only personally done so for test environments but I’m of the belief that running CPS on VMWare is pretty common and well tested configuration. One old VMWare doc on the subject is:

http://www.vmware.com/pdf/esx_citrix_scalability.pdf

Thanks,

Jim Wittry

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[THIN] Cross domain login script

Hi Citrix Guys,

I have users in two different AD forests (trusted).

I have to allow users from domain 1 be able to log in to Citrix servers in domain 2.

Everything works except login script. Login script just is not executed.

Could you please let me know if there is any way to have a login script executed?

Best regards,

Zygmunt

[THIN] Re: Off topic

Altiris

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Beckett, William (Bill) <WBECKETT@steelcase.com> wrote:

I realize this is off topic but just wanted to get some opinions from the astute thin client group. I know a lot of you do or have in the past deal with imaging of client devices. What do you use for imaging of XP based systems, either thin or fat client?

[THIN] Re: Off topic

When we had them we used Altiris (now Symantec) deployment solution.

Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Beckett, William (Bill) <WBECKETT@steelcase.com> wrote:

I realize this is off topic but just wanted to get some opinions from the astute thin client group. I know a lot of you do or have in the past deal with imaging of client devices. What do you use for imaging of XP based systems, either thin or fat client?

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[THIN] Re: Citrix on VMWare

I actually was just about to write this list with the same qeustion.

Thanks George.

I'm looking at migrating an old EOL dell 2650 to Xenapp 4.0 as a VM.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 11:11 AM, <GTaylor@rcrh.org> wrote:

I'm curious how many folks are Xenapp servers as VMs with VMWare ESX? What is the performance and stability like?

Thanks,

George Taylor

Systems Programmer

Regional Health Inc.

Regional Health's mission is to provide and support health care excellence in partnership with the communities we serve.

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[THIN] Re: Off topic

It works just fine for us. We're now looking at Windows Deployment Services, but haven't certified Server 2007 for our org yet. We've looked at a couple other solution, but honestly RIS has been the easiest and most reliable.

George Taylor

Systems Programmer

Regional Health Inc.

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Ahh, good ole MS

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We're using RIS for the base install and then push application packages out via AD.

George Taylor

Systems Programmer

Regional Health Inc.

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Subject: [THIN] Off topic

I realize this is off topic but just wanted to get some opinions from the astute thin client group. I know a lot of you do or have in the past deal with imaging of client devices. What do you use for imaging of XP based systems, either thin or fat client?

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[THIN] Re: Citrix Local Account Passwords

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