[THIN] Re: My upgrade of Citrix Presentation Server Web Interface 4.5 to Xenapp Web Interface 5.01

Links to the Xenapp Web Interface files are now in the blog entry of this email at:

http://kenzig.blogspot.com/2008/11/my-upgrade-of-citrix-presentation.html

You need a MyCitrix account and need to be logged into it to get them.

Jim

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms <jkenzig@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi All,
Just wanted to pass along my experience today of upgrading our external Citrix web interface from PS 4.5 to XA 5.01.

For the most part I was pleasantly suprised with the ease of it and how well it went.   I am still figuring out some of the new file structures and customizations but I will pass those tidbits along as I figure them out. 
I started by downloading the Citrix Xenapp 5.01 Web interface file from Mycitrix.com and then made a backup copy of my program files\citrix folder and my Inetpub\www folder just in case things went terribly wrong.

Needless to say the documentation for 5.1 was rather lacking.  There was a paragraph in the XA 5 admin guide saying you could upgrade from 4.5 to 5 but good luck finding anything else out there.  So I gave it a whirl,  I closed all apps on the server stopped the antivirus and my WI website in IIS and ran the WI 5.01 executable.  It immediately crapped out because it did not find the Xenapp 5.01 console installed on the server.  So I had to go back out to MyCitrix and find the Web Interface Console installation files.
After some searching I finally pegged them down.  I downloaded and had to unzip them to run the executable.  I ran the Console installation, nexted through it with defaults and all seemed well. 

Next I ran the WI installation executable.  I chose defaults on all that and nexted through the prompts.  Went back to IIS restarted my website and restarted my antivirus and jumped on another machine to see how it looked.  Well WI came up and it is a simple black login screen.  So I ran the WI console and went through the choices, played around a little bit and made some modifications.  This version of WI doesn't use the include files in the same way as 4.5 and has a little bit different directory structure but the new version of the console setup for the website does allow for some additional configurations of color and html links in it.  This weekend I will poke around and check on Thomas' site to see what I need to do to get my headers and footers back and pretty it up but the site is running just fine.

It was an easy upgrade,  no problems except for the console surprise. WI 5 seems to load the apps faster and I tested it out on my Tmobile dash to see if it detects the mobile version and it indeed does.  Now I just got to get the ICA client working on my dash and I can have my office with me in my pocket wherever I go!


Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

[THIN] My upgrade of Citrix Presentation Server Web Interface 4.5 to Xenapp Web Interface 5.01

Hi All,
Just wanted to pass along my experience today of upgrading our external Citrix web interface from PS 4.5 to XA 5.01.

For the most part I was pleasantly suprised with the ease of it and how well it went.   I am still figuring out some of the new file structures and customizations but I will pass those tidbits along as I figure them out. 
I started by downloading the Citrix Xenapp 5.01 Web interface file from Mycitrix.com and then made a backup copy of my program files\citrix folder and my Inetpub\www folder just in case things went terribly wrong.

Needless to say the documentation for 5.1 was rather lacking.  There was a paragraph in the XA 5 admin guide saying you could upgrade from 4.5 to 5 but good luck finding anything else out there.  So I gave it a whirl,  I closed all apps on the server stopped the antivirus and my WI website in IIS and ran the WI 5.01 executable.  It immediately crapped out because it did not find the Xenapp 5.01 console installed on the server.  So I had to go back out to MyCitrix and find the Web Interface Console installation files.
After some searching I finally pegged them down.  I downloaded and had to unzip them to run the executable.  I ran the Console installation, nexted through it with defaults and all seemed well. 

Next I ran the WI installation executable.  I chose defaults on all that and nexted through the prompts.  Went back to IIS restarted my website and restarted my antivirus and jumped on another machine to see how it looked.  Well WI came up and it is a simple black login screen.  So I ran the WI console and went through the choices, played around a little bit and made some modifications.  This version of WI doesn't use the include files in the same way as 4.5 and has a little bit different directory structure but the new version of the console setup for the website does allow for some additional configurations of color and html links in it.  This weekend I will poke around and check on Thomas' site to see what I need to do to get my headers and footers back and pretty it up but the site is running just fine.

It was an easy upgrade,  no problems except for the console surprise. WI 5 seems to load the apps faster and I tested it out on my Tmobile dash to see if it detects the mobile version and it indeed does.  Now I just got to get the ICA client working on my dash and I can have my office with me in my pocket wherever I go!


Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

[THIN] Re: Interesting Problem

I always kill those - partly because I don;t like stuff running that doesn't add value to the user's experience, but chiefly because I still don't trust legacy compaq stuff - long live NetServers! :D

On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Kevin Boatright <boatrke1@memorialhealth.com> wrote:

Could that have been version 8.0 of the HP management agents?  Yes they are HP servers.  I'll give that a try.

 

Thanks,

Kevin

 

From: "Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms" [mailto:jkenzig@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 3:28 PM

To: <thin@freelists.org>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Interesting Problem

 

We had this start start happening right after we installed an update to the HP management agents.  Don't happen to have HP servers and have done that do you? Try going to msconfig and disabling all non microsoft sevices and see if the blue screen goes away at reboot.

Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Kevin Boatright <boatrke1@memorialhealth.com> wrote:

We have had issues with our servers blue screening throughout the day.  We have identified one device that has been causing the issue.  There server blue screens whenever the client tries to access the local drive.

 

Current configuration:

Server:

Windows 2K3 SP3

PS 4.0 RO5

 

Client:

Windows 2K SP4

ICA Client 10.2

 

I have run process monitor on the Windows 2K client when the server blue screens.  The ICA client (wfica32.exe) is trying to access a file on the client in the root of the C: drive  called smitfraudfix.exe.  I can move the smitfraudfix.exe file out of the root of C:\ and the issue is resolved.  I have put other .exe files in the root of C: after moving the smitfraudfix.exe out and the issue does not occur.  As soon as I put the smitfraud.exe file back into the root of C:\ on the local device, launch a Citrix session to a published desktop and access the client C: drive the server blue screens.  Anyone ever experience this type of issue?

 

Thanks,

Kevin

 

[THIN] Re: Interesting Problem

Could that have been version 8.0 of the HP management agents?  Yes they are HP servers.  I’ll give that a try.

 

Thanks,

Kevin

 

From: "Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms" [mailto:jkenzig@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 3:28 PM
To: <thin@freelists.org>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Interesting Problem

 

We had this start start happening right after we installed an update to the HP management agents.  Don't happen to have HP servers and have done that do you? Try going to msconfig and disabling all non microsoft sevices and see if the blue screen goes away at reboot.

Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Kevin Boatright <boatrke1@memorialhealth.com> wrote:

We have had issues with our servers blue screening throughout the day.  We have identified one device that has been causing the issue.  There server blue screens whenever the client tries to access the local drive.

 

Current configuration:

Server:

Windows 2K3 SP3

PS 4.0 RO5

 

Client:

Windows 2K SP4

ICA Client 10.2

 

I have run process monitor on the Windows 2K client when the server blue screens.  The ICA client (wfica32.exe) is trying to access a file on the client in the root of the C: drive  called smitfraudfix.exe.  I can move the smitfraudfix.exe file out of the root of C:\ and the issue is resolved.  I have put other .exe files in the root of C: after moving the smitfraudfix.exe out and the issue does not occur.  As soon as I put the smitfraud.exe file back into the root of C:\ on the local device, launch a Citrix session to a published desktop and access the client C: drive the server blue screens.  Anyone ever experience this type of issue?

 

Thanks,

Kevin

 

[THIN] Re: semi-OT: Published ADUC strange

that sucks.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:

works correctly w/o GPOs - bummer.

On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 12:36 AM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:

what do you see when you free the server from any GPO's?

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:

I publish ADUC for IT folks, and it runs a bit odd. They can launch it and do pretty much anything except for view the properties of an object; no errors, it just doesn't open. If I run it (the published ADUC) as an admin it works fine, so it's a permissions issue. I've watched regmon and filemon while running it and there are no access denied messages, but the admin definitely has a lot more registry activity nonetheless.

 

Anyone vastly knowledgeable on the mechanics of ADUC?

[THIN] Re: semi-OT: Published ADUC strange

works correctly w/o GPOs - bummer.

On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 12:36 AM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:

what do you see when you free the server from any GPO's?

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:

I publish ADUC for IT folks, and it runs a bit odd. They can launch it and do pretty much anything except for view the properties of an object; no errors, it just doesn't open. If I run it (the published ADUC) as an admin it works fine, so it's a permissions issue. I've watched regmon and filemon while running it and there are no access denied messages, but the admin definitely has a lot more registry activity nonetheless.

 

Anyone vastly knowledgeable on the mechanics of ADUC?

[THIN] Re: semi-OT: Published ADUC strange

tried it - same issue

On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 1:08 AM, Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms <jkenzig@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Steve,
I am not sure how you are publishing AD but what I do is create a custom console and save it as a MSC file and place it in the root of my c: drive. (I also add the Remote desktops snapin so I can access all my servers remotely.  Here is the cmd line I use when I publish it with citrix  then:

C:\Windows\system32\mmc.exe "c:\console1.msc"

Make sure your users then have access to run the console file.
 HTH
Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:

what do you see when you free the server from any GPO's?

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:

I publish ADUC for IT folks, and it runs a bit odd. They can launch it and do pretty much anything except for view the properties of an object; no errors, it just doesn't open. If I run it (the published ADUC) as an admin it works fine, so it's a permissions issue. I've watched regmon and filemon while running it and there are no access denied messages, but the admin definitely has a lot more registry activity nonetheless.

 

Anyone vastly knowledgeable on the mechanics of ADUC?

[THIN] Re: Interesting Problem

We had this start start happening right after we installed an update to the HP management agents.  Don't happen to have HP servers and have done that do you? Try going to msconfig and disabling all non microsoft sevices and see if the blue screen goes away at reboot.

Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Kevin Boatright <boatrke1@memorialhealth.com> wrote:

We have had issues with our servers blue screening throughout the day.  We have identified one device that has been causing the issue.  There server blue screens whenever the client tries to access the local drive.

 

Current configuration:

Server:

Windows 2K3 SP3

PS 4.0 RO5

 

Client:

Windows 2K SP4

ICA Client 10.2

 

I have run process monitor on the Windows 2K client when the server blue screens.  The ICA client (wfica32.exe) is trying to access a file on the client in the root of the C: drive  called smitfraudfix.exe.  I can move the smitfraudfix.exe file out of the root of C:\ and the issue is resolved.  I have put other .exe files in the root of C: after moving the smitfraudfix.exe out and the issue does not occur.  As soon as I put the smitfraud.exe file back into the root of C:\ on the local device, launch a Citrix session to a published desktop and access the client C: drive the server blue screens.  Anyone ever experience this type of issue?

 

Thanks,

Kevin

[THIN] Re: Interesting Problem

That didn’t seem to make any difference. 

 

In process monitor the wfica32.exe file is attempting to read the file not rtvscan.

 

The blue screen that we receive is:

The IO manager has detected a violation by a driver that is being verified.

The faulty driver that is being verified must be debugged and replaced with a working version.

 

STOP: 0x000000c9 (0x0000000C, 0xB778F784, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)

 

Thanks,

Kevin

 

From: "Raffensberger, Stephen D" [mailto:sraffens@sovereignbank.com]
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 1:46 PM
To: <thin@freelists.org>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Interesting Problem

 

Hi Kevin,

 

I haven’t experienced this exact issue but I have a suggestion. Exclude smitfraudfix.exe from virus scanning on both the client and the server.

 

Steve Raffensberger

Sovereign Bank

1125 Berkshire Boulevard

Wyomissing, PA 19610

email: sraffens@sovereignbank.com

 

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From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Boatright
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 1:36 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Interesting Problem

 

We have had issues with our servers blue screening throughout the day.  We have identified one device that has been causing the issue.  There server blue screens whenever the client tries to access the local drive.

 

Current configuration:

Server:

Windows 2K3 SP3

PS 4.0 RO5

 

Client:

Windows 2K SP4

ICA Client 10.2

 

I have run process monitor on the Windows 2K client when the server blue screens.  The ICA client (wfica32.exe) is trying to access a file on the client in the root of the C: drive  called smitfraudfix.exe.  I can move the smitfraudfix.exe file out of the root of C:\ and the issue is resolved.  I have put other .exe files in the root of C: after moving the smitfraudfix.exe out and the issue does not occur.  As soon as I put the smitfraud.exe file back into the root of C:\ on the local device, launch a Citrix session to a published desktop and access the client C: drive the server blue screens.  Anyone ever experience this type of issue?

 

Thanks,

Kevin

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[THIN] Re: Interesting Problem

Hi Kevin,

 

I haven’t experienced this exact issue but I have a suggestion. Exclude smitfraudfix.exe from virus scanning on both the client and the server.

 

Steve Raffensberger

Sovereign Bank

1125 Berkshire Boulevard

Wyomissing, PA 19610

email: sraffens@sovereignbank.com

 

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From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Boatright
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 1:36 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Interesting Problem

 

We have had issues with our servers blue screening throughout the day.  We have identified one device that has been causing the issue.  There server blue screens whenever the client tries to access the local drive.

 

Current configuration:

Server:

Windows 2K3 SP3

PS 4.0 RO5

 

Client:

Windows 2K SP4

ICA Client 10.2

 

I have run process monitor on the Windows 2K client when the server blue screens.  The ICA client (wfica32.exe) is trying to access a file on the client in the root of the C: drive  called smitfraudfix.exe.  I can move the smitfraudfix.exe file out of the root of C:\ and the issue is resolved.  I have put other .exe files in the root of C: after moving the smitfraudfix.exe out and the issue does not occur.  As soon as I put the smitfraud.exe file back into the root of C:\ on the local device, launch a Citrix session to a published desktop and access the client C: drive the server blue screens.  Anyone ever experience this type of issue?

 

Thanks,

Kevin

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[THIN] Interesting Problem

We have had issues with our servers blue screening throughout the day.  We have identified one device that has been causing the issue.  There server blue screens whenever the client tries to access the local drive.

 

Current configuration:

Server:

Windows 2K3 SP3

PS 4.0 RO5

 

Client:

Windows 2K SP4

ICA Client 10.2

 

I have run process monitor on the Windows 2K client when the server blue screens.  The ICA client (wfica32.exe) is trying to access a file on the client in the root of the C: drive  called smitfraudfix.exe.  I can move the smitfraudfix.exe file out of the root of C:\ and the issue is resolved.  I have put other .exe files in the root of C: after moving the smitfraudfix.exe out and the issue does not occur.  As soon as I put the smitfraud.exe file back into the root of C:\ on the local device, launch a Citrix session to a published desktop and access the client C: drive the server blue screens.  Anyone ever experience this type of issue?

 

Thanks,

Kevin

[THIN] Re: 4.5 Datastore and Satellites

Strong connectivity, including relatively low latency, is required for zone data collector/IMA communication. When sites are not linked with good connectivity they do need to be separate farms. It can be a WAN link, but it needs to be a decent one…

 

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85266

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@thinclient.net

 

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From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of ananth padmanabham
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:04 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: 4.5 Datastore and Satellites

 

Syn problems will have IMA service problems. We have the same problem because of WAN link replication between DS servers.... Anantha Padmanabham K --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Long, Brett (Noumea) <Brett.Long@valeinco.com> wrote: From: Long, Brett (Noumea) <Brett.Long@valeinco.com> Subject: [THIN] Re: 4.5 Datastore and Satellites To: thin@freelists.org Date: Friday, 7 November, 2008, 10:03 AM I work for an organization that ran an Oracle Database and 2 Citrix servers (4.0) in Brisbane and 4 Citrix servers (4.0) pointing back to Brisbane from a South Pacific Island over a Satellite link.   We had numerous issues with the IMA service starting over the sat link which caused delays getting the servers back up if there were issues. We ended up splitting the DS into 2 farms 1 in BNE on the Oracle DB and 1 on the island on an SQL 2005 DB (There were also other business and technical reasons for this decision)   Needless to say there has been a vast improvement in the IMA service and server response time and the users are much happier as well.     Regards...   Brett Long   Vale Inco ( Noumea (+687) 235458 ( Noumea Mobile (+687) 792 885 ( Brisbane Mobile (+61) 0407 759479   * brett.long@valeinco.com     From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Steve Snyder Sent: Friday, 7 November 2008 3:22 PM To: thin@freelists.org Subject: [THIN] 4.5 Datastore and Satellites   I have a 4.5 farm using SQL for the DS, and on the other end of a satellite I have a 4.0 farm that I need to rebuild and bring up to 4.5 as well. I'd like to collapse them into one farm so I'm pondering what to do about the datastore; should I setup a SQL server at the remote site and replicate, or since 4.5 can run indefintely off of the LHC should I just have the remote server access the DS over the WAN? The WAN in question is a geo-synchronous satellite, so about 800ms and it's a pretty heavily utilized small pipe. It's also up and down a lot sometimes.   Looking for thoughts, suggestions, experiences, brain farts, etc.   thanks.

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[THIN] Re: 4.5 Datastore and Satellites

Syn problems will have IMA service problems. We have the same problem because of WAN link replication between DS servers.... Anantha Padmanabham K --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Long, Brett (Noumea) <Brett.Long@valeinco.com> wrote: From: Long, Brett (Noumea) <Brett.Long@valeinco.com> Subject: [THIN] Re: 4.5 Datastore and Satellites To: thin@freelists.org Date: Friday, 7 November, 2008, 10:03 AM I work for an organization that ran an Oracle Database and 2 Citrix servers (4.0) in Brisbane and 4 Citrix servers (4.0) pointing back to Brisbane from a South Pacific Island over a Satellite link.   We had numerous issues with the IMA service starting over the sat link which caused delays getting the servers back up if there were issues. We ended up splitting the DS into 2 farms 1 in BNE on the Oracle DB and 1 on the island on an SQL 2005 DB (There were also other business and technical reasons for this decision)   Needless to say there has been a vast improvement in the IMA service and server response time and the users are much happier as well.     Regards...   Brett Long   Vale Inco ( Noumea (+687) 235458 ( Noumea Mobile (+687) 792 885 ( Brisbane Mobile (+61) 0407 759479   * brett.long@valeinco.com     From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Steve Snyder Sent: Friday, 7 November 2008 3:22 PM To: thin@freelists.org Subject: [THIN] 4.5 Datastore and Satellites   I have a 4.5 farm using SQL for the DS, and on the other end of a satellite I have a 4.0 farm that I need to rebuild and bring up to 4.5 as well. I'd like to collapse them into one farm so I'm pondering what to do about the datastore; should I setup a SQL server at the remote site and replicate, or since 4.5 can run indefintely off of the LHC should I just have the remote server access the DS over the WAN? The WAN in question is a geo-synchronous satellite, so about 800ms and it's a pretty heavily utilized small pipe. It's also up and down a lot sometimes.   Looking for thoughts, suggestions, experiences, brain farts, etc.   thanks.

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[THIN] Re: semi-OT: Published ADUC strange

Hi Steve,
I am not sure how you are publishing AD but what I do is create a custom console and save it as a MSC file and place it in the root of my c: drive. (I also add the Remote desktops snapin so I can access all my servers remotely.  Here is the cmd line I use when I publish it with citrix  then:

C:\Windows\system32\mmc.exe "c:\console1.msc"

Make sure your users then have access to run the console file.
 HTH
Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:

what do you see when you free the server from any GPO's?

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:

I publish ADUC for IT folks, and it runs a bit odd. They can launch it and do pretty much anything except for view the properties of an object; no errors, it just doesn't open. If I run it (the published ADUC) as an admin it works fine, so it's a permissions issue. I've watched regmon and filemon while running it and there are no access denied messages, but the admin definitely has a lot more registry activity nonetheless.

 

Anyone vastly knowledgeable on the mechanics of ADUC?

[THIN] Re: semi-OT: Published ADUC strange

what do you see when you free the server from any GPO's?

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:

I publish ADUC for IT folks, and it runs a bit odd. They can launch it and do pretty much anything except for view the properties of an object; no errors, it just doesn't open. If I run it (the published ADUC) as an admin it works fine, so it's a permissions issue. I've watched regmon and filemon while running it and there are no access denied messages, but the admin definitely has a lot more registry activity nonetheless.

 

Anyone vastly knowledgeable on the mechanics of ADUC?

[THIN] semi-OT: Published ADUC strange

I publish ADUC for IT folks, and it runs a bit odd. They can launch it and do pretty much anything except for view the properties of an object; no errors, it just doesn't open. If I run it (the published ADUC) as an admin it works fine, so it's a permissions issue. I've watched regmon and filemon while running it and there are no access denied messages, but the admin definitely has a lot more registry activity nonetheless.

 

Anyone vastly knowledgeable on the mechanics of ADUC?

[THIN] Re: 4.5 Datastore and Satellites

I work for an organization that ran an Oracle Database and 2 Citrix servers (4.0) in Brisbane and 4 Citrix servers (4.0) pointing back to Brisbane from a South Pacific Island over a Satellite link.

 

We had numerous issues with the IMA service starting over the sat link which caused delays getting the servers back up if there were issues.

We ended up splitting the DS into 2 farms 1 in BNE on the Oracle DB and 1 on the island on an SQL 2005 DB (There were also other business and technical reasons for this decision)

 

Needless to say there has been a vast improvement in the IMA service and server response time and the users are much happier as well.

 

 

Regards...

 

Brett Long

 

Vale Inco

( Noumea (+687) 235458

( Noumea Mobile (+687) 792 885

( Brisbane Mobile (+61) 0407 759479

 

* brett.long@valeinco.com

 

 

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From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Steve Snyder
Sent: Friday, 7 November 2008 3:22 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] 4.5 Datastore and Satellites

 

I have a 4.5 farm using SQL for the DS, and on the other end of a satellite I have a 4.0 farm that I need to rebuild and bring up to 4.5 as well. I'd like to collapse them into one farm so I'm pondering what to do about the datastore; should I setup a SQL server at the remote site and replicate, or since 4.5 can run indefintely off of the LHC should I just have the remote server access the DS over the WAN?

The WAN in question is a geo-synchronous satellite, so about 800ms and it's a pretty heavily utilized small pipe. It's also up and down a lot sometimes.

 

Looking for thoughts, suggestions, experiences, brain farts, etc.

 

thanks.

[THIN] 4.5 Datastore and Satellites

I have a 4.5 farm using SQL for the DS, and on the other end of a satellite I have a 4.0 farm that I need to rebuild and bring up to 4.5 as well. I'd like to collapse them into one farm so I'm pondering what to do about the datastore; should I setup a SQL server at the remote site and replicate, or since 4.5 can run indefintely off of the LHC should I just have the remote server access the DS over the WAN?

The WAN in question is a geo-synchronous satellite, so about 800ms and it's a pretty heavily utilized small pipe. It's also up and down a lot sometimes.

 

Looking for thoughts, suggestions, experiences, brain farts, etc.

 

thanks.

[THIN] Re: Microsoft to rename Terminal Services to Windows Server Remote Desktop Services

>>MED-V (Microsoft Enterprise Desktop - Virtual). Used to be Kidaro's
product.

Yes, this is the client side virtual desktop machine, what is the name of
the server side, i.e. VDI, solution?

Steve

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Steve Greenberg <steveg@thinclient.net>
wrote:
> This is actually a pretty interesting twist! Do you know what the name
will
> be for virtual machine desktops?
>
>
>
>
>
> Steve Greenberg
>
> Thin Client Computing
>
> 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
>
> Scottsdale, AZ 85266
>
> (602) 432-8649
>
> www.thinclient.net
>
> steveg@thinclient.net
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On
Behalf
> Of Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 2:37 PM
> To: THIN
> Subject: [THIN] Microsoft to rename Terminal Services to Windows Server
> Remote Desktop Services
>
>
>
> In the latest Windows Server Blog they announced that Windows Terminal
> Services will be renamed to Windows Server Desktop Services. It appears
the
> change will take place with the R2 release of Windows Server 2008
>
http://blogs.technet.com/windowsserver/archive/2008/10/30/TechEd-EMEA_3A00_-
Terminal-Services-renamed-Remote-Desktop-Services.aspx
> Jim Kenzig
> Blog: http://www.techblink.com
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[THIN] Re: Microsoft to rename Terminal Services to Windows Server Remote Desktop Services

MED-V (Microsoft Enterprise Desktop - Virtual). Used to be Kidaro's product.

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Steve Greenberg <steveg@thinclient.net> wrote:
> This is actually a pretty interesting twist! Do you know what the name will
> be for virtual machine desktops?
>
>
>
>
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> Of Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 2:37 PM
> To: THIN
> Subject: [THIN] Microsoft to rename Terminal Services to Windows Server
> Remote Desktop Services
>
>
>
> In the latest Windows Server Blog they announced that Windows Terminal
> Services will be renamed to Windows Server Desktop Services. It appears the
> change will take place with the R2 release of Windows Server 2008
> http://blogs.technet.com/windowsserver/archive/2008/10/30/TechEd-EMEA_3A00_-Terminal-Services-renamed-Remote-Desktop-Services.aspx
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[THIN] Re: Roaming Profiles for XP

Yeah, that’s why I love being a part of this list. Always guys smarter than me on here with creative ideas

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:41 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Roaming Profiles for XP

 

 

Very clever Rick, Joe and I were pondering that one-  didn’t consider variablizing (is that a word?) to make the distinction- nice!

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85266

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@thinclient.net

 

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From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Rick Mack
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:35 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Roaming Profiles for XP

 

Hi Joe,

 

You can have multiple profiles co-existing by assigning an environment variable as part of the profile name. We did this for a customer a while ago who was upgrading their terminal services operating system. The profile location was something like \\server\user_share\%username\%osv%\. So the different o.s paltform TS servers has different osv environment variables. Windows ignores double \\ in a network share so that would give you a fair bit of scope.

 

For example if a standard desktop didn't have a profile env variable but VDI desktops did, you'd have different profile locations for each platform.

 

regards,

 

Rick

--
Ulrich Mack
Quest Software
Provision Networks Division

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:46 AM, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@gmail.com> wrote:

Much like creating multiple profile locations for TS/Citrix Silos (using GPOs to override the location set in AD) I would like to do the same for Windows XP.  Does anyone know how to override the Profile Location in AD for a group of XP Workstations?

 

Joe

[THIN] Re: Roaming Profiles for XP

 

Very clever Rick, Joe and I were pondering that one-  didn’t consider variablizing (is that a word?) to make the distinction- nice!

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85266

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@thinclient.net

 

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From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Rick Mack
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:35 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Roaming Profiles for XP

 

Hi Joe,

 

You can have multiple profiles co-existing by assigning an environment variable as part of the profile name. We did this for a customer a while ago who was upgrading their terminal services operating system. The profile location was something like \\server\user_share\%username\%osv%\. So the different o.s paltform TS servers has different osv environment variables. Windows ignores double \\ in a network share so that would give you a fair bit of scope.

 

For example if a standard desktop didn't have a profile env variable but VDI desktops did, you'd have different profile locations for each platform.

 

regards,

 

Rick

--
Ulrich Mack
Quest Software
Provision Networks Division

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:46 AM, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@gmail.com> wrote:

Much like creating multiple profile locations for TS/Citrix Silos (using GPOs to override the location set in AD) I would like to do the same for Windows XP.  Does anyone know how to override the Profile Location in AD for a group of XP Workstations?

 

Joe

[THIN] Re: multiple monitors

Hi Steve,

 

Multi-monitor support roughly consists of a large display window spanning multiple monitors. There's extra logic there for application positions etc but that's not relevant to your issue.

 

Anything outside that session display window won't be visble. The height is determined by the height of your monitors and the width is determined by the amount of available session video memory. Colour depth (eg 32bit vs 16bit ) also plays a role here since greater colour depth means less useable width.

 

The "normal" amount of assigned session video memory is about 5600 KB. If we assume that you're running the session in 32bit colour, then the width of the display window would be (((5600x1024)/4)/1280) would be 1120 pixels.

 

If you edit the farm properties > Server default > ICA > Display > "maximum memory to use for each session's graphics" and increase the available TS session video memory to 8192 KB then you'd have a display width of 1638 pixels which is still not quite enough. BUt if you then reduce the colour depth to 24 bit you get a width of 2184 pixels which will let you display 2x1280x1024 quite nicely.

 

regards,

 

Rick

--
Ulrich Mack
Quest Software
Provision Networks Division

 

On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:

xenapp 4.5 fp1 with hr03, w2k3 R2, xpsp2 running ica client 10.2 dual monitors, both set to 1280x1024, 60hz. Published apps will *only* work on the primary monitor - try and drag them to the other monitor and they just disappear, or at least the part of the app that's on the monitor.

 

Anyone?

[THIN] Re: Roaming Profiles for XP

Hi Joe,

 

You can have multiple profiles co-existing by assigning an environment variable as part of the profile name. We did this for a customer a while ago who was upgrading their terminal services operating system. The profile location was something like \\server\user_share\%username\%osv%\. So the different o.s paltform TS servers has different osv environment variables. Windows ignores double \\ in a network share so that would give you a fair bit of scope.

 

For example if a standard desktop didn't have a profile env variable but VDI desktops did, you'd have different profile locations for each platform.

 

regards,

 

Rick

--
Ulrich Mack
Quest Software
Provision Networks Division

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:46 AM, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@gmail.com> wrote:

Much like creating multiple profile locations for TS/Citrix Silos (using GPOs to override the location set in AD) I would like to do the same for Windows XP.  Does anyone know how to override the Profile Location in AD for a group of XP Workstations?

 

Joe