Saturday, January 31, 2009

[THIN] Re: Published Outlook 2007 is ugly

sum'bunchee - it's not hideously fugly.

On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
bummer - I'll be starting in about 4 hours...
 
maybe I'll just point users to OWA and tell them that's it - most would never know

On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think it has but I am about to start the same battle myself next week. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 30, 2009, at 6:44 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:

Okay,

the forces of evil, though still likely triumphant in the end, have changed their minds and dictated that I install Office 2007. I haven't done any research yet but has the ugly published Outlook 2007 been figured out and fixed yet?

I did manage to get the MS hotfix and the citrix patches installed

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:12 AM, JAlexander <jalexander@getoffmyplanet.us> wrote:
I successfully installed that one, rebooted, opened a pub desktop, enabled cleartype, but the display is still nasty.  Hopefully, you will have better results.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Snyder
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:01 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Published Outlook 2007 is ugly

it's hotfix PSE450R02W2K3037 - but I've downloaded it twice and when I run it I get a windows installer error message
 
"the patch package could not be opened. verifty theat the patch package exists and that you can acces it, or contact the application vendor to verify that it is a valid windows installer patch package."
 
Anyone able to successfully install this one?

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 6:42 AM, JAlexander <jalexander@getoffmyplanet.us> wrote:
I thought maybe enabling ClearType would help but I publish apps, not a full desktop.  If you publish a desktop, there's a Citrix hotfix to enable Cleartype support:  http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX113295.  The second hotfix (CTX117240) tells me that I'm not authorized to even view it so you must have to have a support contract or something. 
 
I'll publish a desktop for myself and enable Cleartype to see what happens. 
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Reese
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:29 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Published Outlook 2007 is ugly

I can't even get them to agree it's ok to run XP Sp3.  Office 2007 isn't even on the radar.  it's a shame they didn't offer a "classic" view or something.  or maybe they did and I just haven't found it yet.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 1:19 PM, JAlexander <jalexander@getoffmyplanet.us> wrote:
This should be fun...LOL  I've been testing on a local PC and haven't had any issues with it so far.  My users have only had it for 2 days so I'm sure they'll find all the bugs for me.  ;) Unfortunately, the move to 2007 was decreed by our CIO and I had to comply. Thankfully, the upgrade to 2007 on the Citrix server was fairly painless.  The display in all the office apps is pretty fuzzy but it's most prominent in Outlook.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:52 AM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Published Outlook 2007 is ugly

I don't know I am still very inclined to stick with Outlook 2003.  I have been using Outlook 2007 locally on my Vista Business PC since it's release and testing and every time I get an update from MS (once a month) it somehow breaks Outlook 2007 and I have to run the repair utility from the CD.  Very frustrating. 
Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com


On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:51 AM, JAlexander <jalexander@getoffmyplanet.us> wrote:
I was kind of hoping good would overcome since I upgraded to 2007 this weekend and the display is ugly here as well.  ;)  Any suggestions would be welcome.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Snyder
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:36 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Published Outlook 2007 is ugly

the forces of evil triumphed.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:
quitter


On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
yep. Unfortunately it's now a dead issue as I've rolled back to 2003 (which works fine).


On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 1:09 AM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:
I think he means the application itself is 16 color.


On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 3:40 AM, Andy Friar <Andy.Friar@novus.co.uk> wrote:
WI 4.6 and the latest AMC, repulish app and you'll get better colours on the icon through PNagent and WI / CSG.

Andy


________________________________

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org on behalf of Steve Snyder
Sent: Sun 17/08/2008 00:06
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Published Outlook 2007 is ugly


Publishing office 2007 on w2k3 r2 w/sp2, citrix name-of-the-day 4.5, and Outlook is just ugly. As in 16-color ugly. All of the other apps, including office, look fine, and pictures embedded within an e-mail message display fine in Outlook, it's just Outlook itself is hideous.

Ideas?








ockquote>








Friday, January 30, 2009

[THIN] Re: Published Outlook 2007 is ugly

bummer - I'll be starting in about 4 hours...
 
maybe I'll just point users to OWA and tell them that's it - most would never know

On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think it has but I am about to start the same battle myself next week. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 30, 2009, at 6:44 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:

Okay,

the forces of evil, though still likely triumphant in the end, have changed their minds and dictated that I install Office 2007. I haven't done any research yet but has the ugly published Outlook 2007 been figured out and fixed yet?

I did manage to get the MS hotfix and the citrix patches installed

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:12 AM, JAlexander <jalexander@getoffmyplanet.us> wrote:
I successfully installed that one, rebooted, opened a pub desktop, enabled cleartype, but the display is still nasty.  Hopefully, you will have better results.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:01 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Published Outlook 2007 is ugly

it's hotfix PSE450R02W2K3037 - but I've downloaded it twice and when I run it I get a windows installer error message
 
"the patch package could not be opened. verifty theat the patch package exists and that you can acces it, or contact the application vendor to verify that it is a valid windows installer patch package."
 
Anyone able to successfully install this one?

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 6:42 AM, JAlexander <jalexander@getoffmyplanet.us> wrote:
I thought maybe enabling ClearType would help but I publish apps, not a full desktop.  If you publish a desktop, there's a Citrix hotfix to enable Cleartype support:  http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX113295.  The second hotfix (CTX117240) tells me that I'm not authorized to even view it so you must have to have a support contract or something. 
 
I'll publish a desktop for myself and enable Cleartype to see what happens. 
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Reese
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:29 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Published Outlook 2007 is ugly

I can't even get them to agree it's ok to run XP Sp3.  Office 2007 isn't even on the radar.  it's a shame they didn't offer a "classic" view or something.  or maybe they did and I just haven't found it yet.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 1:19 PM, JAlexander <jalexander@getoffmyplanet.us> wrote:
This should be fun...LOL  I've been testing on a local PC and haven't had any issues with it so far.  My users have only had it for 2 days so I'm sure they'll find all the bugs for me.  ;) Unfortunately, the move to 2007 was decreed by our CIO and I had to comply. Thankfully, the upgrade to 2007 on the Citrix server was fairly painless.  The display in all the office apps is pretty fuzzy but it's most prominent in Outlook.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:52 AM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Published Outlook 2007 is ugly

I don't know I am still very inclined to stick with Outlook 2003.  I have been using Outlook 2007 locally on my Vista Business PC since it's release and testing and every time I get an update from MS (once a month) it somehow breaks Outlook 2007 and I have to run the repair utility from the CD.  Very frustrating. 
Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com


On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:51 AM, JAlexander <jalexander@getoffmyplanet.us> wrote:
I was kind of hoping good would overcome since I upgraded to 2007 this weekend and the display is ugly here as well.  ;)  Any suggestions would be welcome.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:36 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Published Outlook 2007 is ugly

the forces of evil triumphed.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:
quitter


On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
yep. Unfortunately it's now a dead issue as I've rolled back to 2003 (which works fine).


On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 1:09 AM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:
I think he means the application itself is 16 color.


On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 3:40 AM, Andy Friar <Andy.Friar@novus.co.uk> wrote:
WI 4.6 and the latest AMC, repulish app and you'll get better colours on the icon through PNagent and WI / CSG.

Andy


________________________________

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org on behalf of Steve Snyder
Sent: Sun 17/08/2008 00:06
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Published Outlook 2007 is ugly


Publishing office 2007 on w2k3 r2 w/sp2, citrix name-of-the-day 4.5, and Outlook is just ugly. As in 16-color ugly. All of the other apps, including office, look fine, and pictures embedded within an e-mail message display fine in Outlook, it's just Outlook itself is hideous.

Ideas?








ockquote>







[THIN] Re: Published Outlook 2007 is ugly

I don't think it has but I am about to start the same battle myself next week. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 30, 2009, at 6:44 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:

Okay,

the forces of evil, though still likely triumphant in the end, have changed their minds and dictated that I install Office 2007. I haven't done any research yet but has the ugly published Outlook 2007 been figured out and fixed yet?

I did manage to get the MS hotfix and the citrix patches installed

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:12 AM, JAlexander <jalexander@getoffmyplanet.us> wrote:
I successfully installed that one, rebooted, opened a pub desktop, enabled cleartype, but the display is still nasty.  Hopefully, you will have better results.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Snyder
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:01 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Published Outlook 2007 is ugly

it's hotfix PSE450R02W2K3037 - but I've downloaded it twice and when I run it I get a windows installer error message
 
"the patch package could not be opened. verifty theat the patch package exists and that you can acces it, or contact the application vendor to verify that it is a valid windows installer patch package."
 
Anyone able to successfully install this one?

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 6:42 AM, JAlexander <jalexander@getoffmyplanet.us> wrote:
I thought maybe enabling ClearType would help but I publish apps, not a full desktop.  If you publish a desktop, there's a Citrix hotfix to enable Cleartype support:  http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX113295.  The second hotfix (CTX117240) tells me that I'm not authorized to even view it so you must have to have a support contract or something. 
 
I'll publish a desktop for myself and enable Cleartype to see what happens. 
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Reese
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:29 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Published Outlook 2007 is ugly

I can't even get them to agree it's ok to run XP Sp3.  Office 2007 isn't even on the radar.  it's a shame they didn't offer a "classic" view or something.  or maybe they did and I just haven't found it yet.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 1:19 PM, JAlexander <jalexander@getoffmyplanet.us> wrote:
This should be fun...LOL  I've been testing on a local PC and haven't had any issues with it so far.  My users have only had it for 2 days so I'm sure they'll find all the bugs for me.  ;) Unfortunately, the move to 2007 was decreed by our CIO and I had to comply. Thankfully, the upgrade to 2007 on the Citrix server was fairly painless.  The display in all the office apps is pretty fuzzy but it's most prominent in Outlook.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:52 AM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Published Outlook 2007 is ugly

I don't know I am still very inclined to stick with Outlook 2003.  I have been using Outlook 2007 locally on my Vista Business PC since it's release and testing and every time I get an update from MS (once a month) it somehow breaks Outlook 2007 and I have to run the repair utility from the CD.  Very frustrating. 
Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com


On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:51 AM, JAlexander <jalexander@getoffmyplanet.us> wrote:
I was kind of hoping good would overcome since I upgraded to 2007 this weekend and the display is ugly here as well.  ;)  Any suggestions would be welcome.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Snyder
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:36 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Published Outlook 2007 is ugly

the forces of evil triumphed.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:
quitter


On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
yep. Unfortunately it's now a dead issue as I've rolled back to 2003 (which works fine).


On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 1:09 AM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:
I think he means the application itself is 16 color.


On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 3:40 AM, Andy Friar <Andy.Friar@novus.co.uk> wrote:
WI 4.6 and the latest AMC, repulish app and you'll get better colours on the icon through PNagent and WI / CSG.

Andy


________________________________

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org on behalf of Steve Snyder
Sent: Sun 17/08/2008 00:06
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Published Outlook 2007 is ugly


Publishing office 2007 on w2k3 r2 w/sp2, citrix name-of-the-day 4.5, and Outlook is just ugly. As in 16-color ugly. All of the other apps, including office, look fine, and pictures embedded within an e-mail message display fine in Outlook, it's just Outlook itself is hideous.

Ideas?








ockquote>






[THIN] Re: Published Outlook 2007 is ugly

Okay,

the forces of evil, though still likely triumphant in the end, have changed their minds and dictated that I install Office 2007. I haven't done any research yet but has the ugly published Outlook 2007 been figured out and fixed yet?

I did manage to get the MS hotfix and the citrix patches installed

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:12 AM, JAlexander <jalexander@getoffmyplanet.us> wrote:
I successfully installed that one, rebooted, opened a pub desktop, enabled cleartype, but the display is still nasty.  Hopefully, you will have better results.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Snyder
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:01 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Published Outlook 2007 is ugly

it's hotfix PSE450R02W2K3037 - but I've downloaded it twice and when I run it I get a windows installer error message
 
"the patch package could not be opened. verifty theat the patch package exists and that you can acces it, or contact the application vendor to verify that it is a valid windows installer patch package."
 
Anyone able to successfully install this one?

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 6:42 AM, JAlexander <jalexander@getoffmyplanet.us> wrote:
I thought maybe enabling ClearType would help but I publish apps, not a full desktop.  If you publish a desktop, there's a Citrix hotfix to enable Cleartype support:  http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX113295.  The second hotfix (CTX117240) tells me that I'm not authorized to even view it so you must have to have a support contract or something. 
 
I'll publish a desktop for myself and enable Cleartype to see what happens. 
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Reese
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:29 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Published Outlook 2007 is ugly

I can't even get them to agree it's ok to run XP Sp3.  Office 2007 isn't even on the radar.  it's a shame they didn't offer a "classic" view or something.  or maybe they did and I just haven't found it yet.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 1:19 PM, JAlexander <jalexander@getoffmyplanet.us> wrote:
This should be fun...LOL  I've been testing on a local PC and haven't had any issues with it so far.  My users have only had it for 2 days so I'm sure they'll find all the bugs for me.  ;) Unfortunately, the move to 2007 was decreed by our CIO and I had to comply. Thankfully, the upgrade to 2007 on the Citrix server was fairly painless.  The display in all the office apps is pretty fuzzy but it's most prominent in Outlook.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:52 AM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Published Outlook 2007 is ugly

I don't know I am still very inclined to stick with Outlook 2003.  I have been using Outlook 2007 locally on my Vista Business PC since it's release and testing and every time I get an update from MS (once a month) it somehow breaks Outlook 2007 and I have to run the repair utility from the CD.  Very frustrating. 
Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com


On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:51 AM, JAlexander <jalexander@getoffmyplanet.us> wrote:
I was kind of hoping good would overcome since I upgraded to 2007 this weekend and the display is ugly here as well.  ;)  Any suggestions would be welcome.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Snyder
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:36 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Published Outlook 2007 is ugly

the forces of evil triumphed.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:
quitter


On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
yep. Unfortunately it's now a dead issue as I've rolled back to 2003 (which works fine).


On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 1:09 AM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:
I think he means the application itself is 16 color.


On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 3:40 AM, Andy Friar <Andy.Friar@novus.co.uk> wrote:
WI 4.6 and the latest AMC, repulish app and you'll get better colours on the icon through PNagent and WI / CSG.

Andy


________________________________

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org on behalf of Steve Snyder
Sent: Sun 17/08/2008 00:06
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Published Outlook 2007 is ugly


Publishing office 2007 on w2k3 r2 w/sp2, citrix name-of-the-day 4.5, and Outlook is just ugly. As in 16-color ugly. All of the other apps, including office, look fine, and pictures embedded within an e-mail message display fine in Outlook, it's just Outlook itself is hideous.

Ideas?








[THIN] Re: Raid setups for citrix servers?

Most deployments (Hardware based) are a simple Mirrored Raid 1 set... Some
organizations have a habit of always ordering 5 disks and having a Mirrored
Raid 1 set for the OS and Raid 5 for the Data. But if a customer ends up
with 6 drives I will push RAID 0+1 (or RAID 10 on the Dells). You'll get
wicked performance with that. Noticeable over a similar RAID 5
configuration.

A couple other things to keep in mind. A hot spare on a TS is overkill. A
separate Data volume on a TS is simply not necessary. There shouldn't be
any data on it.

My advice? Skip the 5-6 15k drives and spend that money on a couple of SSD
drives instead.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf
Of jond
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:18 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Raid setups for citrix servers?

I'm curious how everyone does raid on their citrix presentation boxes.

I've always done them in a simple Raid 5 setup(with online spare) with
5-6 15,000rpm drives.
It makes for a pretty smoking fast setup, but it's not the cheapest
setup in the world.
I just got a quote for the new box I'm building, and the drives cost
almost as much as the server.

Anyone doing anything like raid 1 on the OS and raid 5 on the data?
Anything more exotic?

Thanks,
Jon

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[THIN] Re: Raid setups for citrix servers?

Agreed, it depends on the details of the apps and the environment. For a small environment I tend to prefer to mirror the OS drive for protection and if there are additional spindles put pagefile and other chatty stuff there. For larger environments striping for performance is a good idea and let the server count take care of redundancy. Another factor over the last few years has been the move to blades, although it is improving the disk controllers on many blades have been lacking in performance and you have to be careful to test the results of what *normally* would work best….

 

 

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From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Berny Stapleton
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:49 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Raid setups for citrix servers?

 

Pretty much all of the deployments that I have seen, a single mirror set is plenty.

I would be looking at the disk queue using perfmon and making sure that there isn't a backlog of requests. As long as there isn't then there shouldn't be a major hassle with disk performance on a Citrix server.

It's definitely a case of YMMV though. I have seen some instances with applications that build a a database locally, copy data from another database server into it's database, use it and then wipe it at logoff. When you have 40 users on a server, it can blow the disks away. The same would go if you were running a VMWare server and had the disks locally for 10 servers sitting on top, the IO/sec requirements could be quite high.

Either way, take a look at what you are actually doing, and if required get some smaller disks then less large ones, this will give you more IO/sec.

Berny

2009/1/30 jond <x@jond.com>

I'm curious how everyone does raid on their citrix presentation boxes.

I've always done them in a simple Raid 5 setup(with online spare) with
5-6 15,000rpm drives.
It makes for a pretty smoking fast setup, but it's not the cheapest
setup in the world.
I just got a quote for the new box I'm building, and the drives cost
almost as much as the server.

Anyone doing anything like raid 1 on the OS and raid 5 on the data?
Anything more exotic?



Thanks,
Jon



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[THIN] Re: Raid setups for citrix servers?

Pretty much all of the deployments that I have seen, a single mirror set is plenty.

I would be looking at the disk queue using perfmon and making sure that there isn't a backlog of requests. As long as there isn't then there shouldn't be a major hassle with disk performance on a Citrix server.

It's definitely a case of YMMV though. I have seen some instances with applications that build a a database locally, copy data from another database server into it's database, use it and then wipe it at logoff. When you have 40 users on a server, it can blow the disks away. The same would go if you were running a VMWare server and had the disks locally for 10 servers sitting on top, the IO/sec requirements could be quite high.

Either way, take a look at what you are actually doing, and if required get some smaller disks then less large ones, this will give you more IO/sec.

Berny


2009/1/30 jond <x@jond.com>
I'm curious how everyone does raid on their citrix presentation boxes.

I've always done them in a simple Raid 5 setup(with online spare) with
5-6 15,000rpm drives.
It makes for a pretty smoking fast setup, but it's not the cheapest
setup in the world.
I just got a quote for the new box I'm building, and the drives cost
almost as much as the server.

Anyone doing anything like raid 1 on the OS and raid 5 on the data?
Anything more exotic?



Thanks,
Jon



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[THIN] Re: Raid setups for citrix servers?

Just a stripe for me. Build them for speed. Get redundancy from more
servers.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 30, 2009, at 9:17 AM, jond <x@jond.com> wrote:

> I'm curious how everyone does raid on their citrix presentation boxes.
>
> I've always done them in a simple Raid 5 setup(with online spare) with
> 5-6 15,000rpm drives.
> It makes for a pretty smoking fast setup, but it's not the cheapest
> setup in the world.
> I just got a quote for the new box I'm building, and the drives cost
> almost as much as the server.
>
> Anyone doing anything like raid 1 on the OS and raid 5 on the data?
> Anything more exotic?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Jon
>
>
>
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[THIN] Raid setups for citrix servers?

I'm curious how everyone does raid on their citrix presentation boxes.

I've always done them in a simple Raid 5 setup(with online spare) with
5-6 15,000rpm drives.
It makes for a pretty smoking fast setup, but it's not the cheapest
setup in the world.
I just got a quote for the new box I'm building, and the drives cost
almost as much as the server.

Anyone doing anything like raid 1 on the OS and raid 5 on the data?
Anything more exotic?

Thanks,
Jon

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[THIN] Citrix to reduce Workforce by 10%


500 Jobs!!

http://mobile.informationweek.com/device/article.php?CALL_URL=http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/server_virtualization/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=212903581


Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

[THIN] TsCal per device

Hi List,

Is there any way to manage (grant or deny access) which device can
connect to the farm?
Creating a group, OU, and grant permissions to TS servers? I'm not sure.
How do you manage it?


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Thursday, January 29, 2009

[THIN] Re: OT: Data Storage for VM

Compellent are ex-XIOTECH people so there is some crossover there, Datacore is a completely different concept, all are pretty cool….

 

 

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From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:22 PM
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What makes compellent special?  What are they doing that other are not?  How do they compare to say,  XioTech or DataCore?

 

Joe

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of BARICHELLO, Daniel
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:11 PM
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Have a look at the compellent stuff.. http://www.compellent.com/   It is awesome and they do very cool stuff no one else is doing.......

 

 VMware Storage partner of the year, MS storage partner of the year... and many many more.

 

I only know cause have been doing a lot research on of recent for the same reasons you are.

 

Regards

 

Daniel.

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Minero, Hector B CIV NSWCDD, K55
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 6:29 AM
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Subject: [THIN] OT: Data Storage for VM

 

 

For those of you using VMWare Enterprise, what Data Storage devices are you using for your VMs?
Fiber Channel, iSCSI?
We're looking at an IP Data Storage Unit (EqualLogic) that Dell sells, but I'm not sure if this good enough for VMWare.

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[THIN] Re: OT: Data Storage for VM

What makes compellent special?  What are they doing that other are not?  How do they compare to say,  XioTech or DataCore?

 

Joe

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of BARICHELLO, Daniel
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:11 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Data Storage for VM

 

Have a look at the compellent stuff.. http://www.compellent.com/   It is awesome and they do very cool stuff no one else is doing.......

 

 VMware Storage partner of the year, MS storage partner of the year... and many many more.

 

I only know cause have been doing a lot research on of recent for the same reasons you are.

 

Regards

 

Daniel.

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Minero, Hector B CIV NSWCDD, K55
Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 6:29 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] OT: Data Storage for VM

 

 

For those of you using VMWare Enterprise, what Data Storage devices are you using for your VMs?
Fiber Channel, iSCSI?
We're looking at an IP Data Storage Unit (EqualLogic) that Dell sells, but I'm not sure if this good enough for VMWare.

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Hector Minero
NSWCDD K55

 


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