Agreed. The critical emphasis in my assessment should have been ‘everything *we* need’. We haven’t got any use for the advanced Citrix features (And no time/budget to develop the needed expertise), so Provision fill our gap very nicely.
To answer the OP, I’d guess any organisation complex enough to have an ‘Architecture Group’ is too complex for vanilla TS, even 2008...
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: 06 February 2009 17:08
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: TS Gateway - OT?
I think it is a good idea to right size these things. If the free version, or the free version with an add-on, can do it for less $$ then obviously it is a good solution.
I think it is a little misguided though when people say that Citrix is overpriced, they clearly have the most advanced functionality available, particularly when you put a complete solution together across the App Delivery/Networking/Virtualization spaces…..
This is why I think Provision Networks are very smart, they can potentially build a large and lucrative market around what most people need most of the time- brilliant!
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85266
(602) 432-8649
steveg@thinclient.net
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Nick Smith
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:14 AM
To: 'thin@freelists.org'
Subject: [THIN] Re: TS Gateway - OT?
The gateway works, we’ve been using it for a while, on occasional basis. It works quite nicely, in fact, but with basically no granularity; it remains that if you’re serving our the same apps to the same people then vanilla TS works fine – for small firms, it’s great.
For anything more complex, you will probably need an add-on. Ericom provide a freebie (Then you pay if you want load-balancing features). For my money using Provision’s...umm...vWorkspace (Recently renamed) is the direction we’re going as our ‘We don’t need Citrix’ solution – does everything we need for *waaaaaayyyyyyy* less money than Citrix.
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: 06 February 2009 04:29
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: TS Gateway - OT?
And it beats Citrix’s CSG by $0.00.
Citrix killer? No… There is still value that Citrix adds to Terminal Services above and beyond the stock product. For smaller customers there is AE and for Medium to Enterprise there is XenApp Enterprise and Platinum. For remote access, CSG is included in AE. For larger customers there is the CAG and AGE.
Joe
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:55 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: TS Gateway - OT?
It’s worth every penny it cost!
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85266
(602) 432-8649
steveg@thinclient.net
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Tom Sorenson
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 7:40 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] TS Gateway - OT?
So it's been about a year that the MS TS Gateway has been around. I've seen zero discussion of it on this board, I'm wondering what everyone's opinion is of it and if they have tested or implemented. My architecture group seems to think it's a Citrix killer. I don't. I'm preparing my arguments now and would appreciate a sound off from the list on the subject.
Thanks all
Tom
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