Friday, December 5, 2008

[THIN] Re: Outlook 2007 Instant Search - Windows Desktop Search

8GB mailbox size = wow.

I can't even imagine the type of horsepower you would need on an exchange server(s) let alone storage capacity on a SAN to support 8GB mailbox sizes, but i imagine that's the future and present, depending on type of business

We're discussing bumping all staff to 1GB and executive 5GB limits. So I guess i'll be facing the same dilemma other people are facing right now.



On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Nick Smith <nick@officeanyplace.com> wrote:

Just to add to the conversation, we've enabled Desktop Search on 3 Terminal Servers, as Outlook 2007 search is basically broken without it. On one, 40+ users at a time, no problem. On another, 8 users, no problems. On a  third, 10 users, absolute disaster as it basically used up all CPU. 10 users =10 Indexing thread, each throttled to 10% by Threadmaster, = unusable TS.

 

In fairness, these users have never deleted anything and their mailboxes are up around 3-8GBs each or so, but we nearly lost them as a client – though that was our fault, they're very twitchy about slowness and complain every moment their broadband blinks, so we kinda ignored their slowness complaints for a while…

 

 

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Evan Mann
Sent: 05 December 2008 15:37


To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2007 Instant Search - Windows Desktop Search

 

Download link for Lookout 1.3.0 (was the last release);

 

http://majorgeeks.com/Lookout_d4808.html

 

In my searching, I just found the following article on getting Lookout to work in Outlook 2007

 

http://www.belshe.com/2007/12/06/how-to-install-lookout-on-outlook-2007/

 

And looking into the November 2008 replies, the following updated method:

 

http://www.wirwar.com/blog/2008/01/22/search-e-mail-at-lightspeed-using-lookout-with-outlook-2007/

 

There's various other links, methods, patches, etc., but people seem to be pretty  gungho on keeping Lookout search working in Outlook 2007.  I think I'm going to uninstall WDS and go back to Lookout using these methods.

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Harry Singh
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 10:10 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Outlook 2007 Instant Search - Windows Desktop Search

 

Great Feedback Evan.

I actually used Copernic Desktop Search for outlook, but their recent upgrade has actually regressed some functionality and it's actually not even tolerable at this point.

where can i get lookout ? as i'm currently running outlook 2k3.

I've heard that one needs to be wary of the desktop search engines when it comes to outlook connecting to an Exchange box as it could possible lead to unnecessary overhead on the server side..

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Evan Mann <emann@tpcflorida.com> wrote:

I was an avid user of Lookout Search under Outlook 2003, simply the best thing out there.  Small, lean, QUICK. When I upgraded to Office 2007 I was stuck in that Lookout doesn't work.  Since MS purchased Lookout Software, I figured the search capabilities of WDS combined with Outlook 2007 would be just as good.  So I broke down and installed WDS and configured it to index nothing but Outlook (slows down my computer too much for file system indexing).

 

Verdict?  Not as good as Lookout.  Nowhere near as fast to pull up search results, WAY more intensive overhead on the system.  That being said, it's VASTLY superior to using the built in Outlook 2007 search without WDS.

 

I haven't looked into any other options.   I believe the MSN toolbar has integrated search capabilities that are supposed to work with Outlook, but I have always assumed it would be exactly the same as if you had WDS installed.  Maybe not?    I'm disappointed that MS screwed the pooch on integrating Lookout search technology in the way they did.  They should have simply integrated Lookout into Outlook 2007 and not required WDS.

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of IT Support
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 9:45 AM
To: 'thin@freelists.org'
Subject: [THIN] Outlook 2007 Instant Search - Windows Desktop Search

 

Hello List,

 

What solutions do you use for Outlook 2007 Instant Search? Have any of you tried installed WDS (Windows Desktop Search) ?

 

System is Citrix Presentation Server 4.5, Office 2007 sp1.

 

We are having a torrid time getting anything working – turns out our users like to search lots!

 

Tia.

 

Jaime.

 

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