Monday, June 29, 2009

[THIN] Re: Tracking 2003 CAL's

TS Per-User CAL's are currenly done on the "honor system". In 2003, TS Per-User CAL usage is not tracked. In 2008, TS Per-User CAL usage is tracked, but not enforced (i.e., at least you can tell when you are breaking your license agreement!)
There's no real easy way to tell what is going on. Your TSCAL license serve, or alternatively, your Microsoft EA agreement, ought to tell you how many TS CAL's you own. If you control access to the TS server, or the applications that are hosted on them, via something like AD group membership, you can count the number of folks in those groups and compare that to the TS CAL count. That's about as scientific as it can get with 2003. If you don't control access to your TS systems, then theoretically all of your users are potential users of TS and thus should be covered by a TS CAL, and HR can thus tell you how many you should own.

From: [] On Behalf Of Gary Scanga
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 2:15 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Tracking 2003 CAL's

Thanks again Carl.


To be clear, ensuring that I own enough TSCAL's for every named user is for satisfying compliance requirements and not technical requirements.  This is where the ability to track utilization would be helpful since it'd provide real data to decision makers as well as ensure that we originally sized our TSCAL's accurately.



From: [] On Behalf Of Carl Stalhood
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 1:09 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Tracking 2003 CAL's


User CALs are not enforced.

Device CALs are enforced.

Make sure all of your Terminal Servers are configured with Per User TS Licensing and there won't be a problem (run tscc.msc). However, you still have to ensure that you own a TSCAL for every named user that connects to Terminal Server.

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Gary Scanga <> wrote:

Thanks Carl. Yes, I was asking about Per-user CAL utilization. Bummer there's no simple way to track these in 2003.


I'm continuing to look into managing the utilization of these CAL's because I suspect that we're running near capacity and want to know when the limit's been reached. However, based on this definition it appears that my 2003 terminal server farm may allow additional connections beyond the number of CAL's installed. So, if I have 500 CAL's configured on my 2003 terminal server license server, connection number 501 would technically be allowed. And perhaps that's a reason why tracking their utilization isn't so important as it won't negatively impact the business.


Can else anyone confirm this?


I simply want to avoid the opposite being true and connection number 500 is rejected due to a CAL limitation.




From: [] On Behalf Of Carl Stalhood
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:27 AM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Tracking 2003 CAL's


You mean User CALs? User CALs are tracked in 2008 but not in 2003.

On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Gary Scanga <> wrote:

Does anyone have a decent way of tracking the issuance or utilization of TS CAL's in 2003?

Thanks in advance!



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