Eh? Software Assurance is something you pay for to get free upgrades to purchased products. Doesn’t have anything to do with licensing quantities.
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:56 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Article: Parallels' Serguei Beloussov speaks out on free XenServer
Microsoft has a different program call Software Assurance for that.
Joe
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Evan Mann
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:24 AM
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Article: Parallels' Serguei Beloussov speaks out on free XenServer
Does the SPLA and SAL thing work for a regular business who is just hosting systems for their own employees? Or Is it strictly for true hosting providers who provide services to paying customers.
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Nick Smith
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:55 AM
To: 'thin@freelists.org'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Article: Parallels' Serguei Beloussov speaks out on free XenServer
Yes it does, but the SPLA is on a SAL basis (SAL=CAL, sort of). If you have 10 users using your hosted systems, using W2K8, then you pay for 10 SALS *no matter how many servers you have*. So it is fine to have 6 file server, 2 dc, 2 dns, 20 ts, 4 hyper-v, and the W2K3/8 bit of those licences is all covered by the SAL cost.
Again, *if* you’re hosting MS apps, you *will* be paying the SAL cost in pretty much every case, which makes Hyper-V effectively free. If you’re running Linux it isn’t, clearly.
The 10 SALs, BTW, will cost ~$5/month – I have a UK price list so don’t take that as too rigid but gives a general idea.
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Wood
Sent: 25 February 2009 15:41
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Article: Parallels' Serguei Beloussov speaks out on free XenServer
Because its only ‘free’ when you have an SPLA – and having an SPLA subjects you to a monthly charge doesn’t it?
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: 25 February 2009 14:35
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Article: Parallels' Serguei Beloussov speaks out on free XenServer
Cool, I didn’t realize that….
So now that Hyper-V is effectively free why would someone choose that versus XEN?
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85266
(602) 432-8649
steveg@thinclient.net
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Nick Smith
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 12:26 AM
To: 'thin@freelists.org'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Article: Parallels' Serguei Beloussov speaks out on free XenServer
Microsoft’s SPLA – effectively a requirement if you’re hosting MS apps – has the side effect of making Hyper-V free for all practical purposes.
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Also consider that everyone says that the Microsoft Hyper-V is free, however, you still have to buy Windows server to get it!! In your cloud example there are MANY commercial cases where a hypervisor that is actually free will continue to make economic sense for a long time!!
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85266
(602) 432-8649
steveg@thinclient.net
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Saunders
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:01 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Article: Parallels' Serguei Beloussov speaks out on free XenServer
If you follow groups like http://groups.google.com/group/cloud-computing/, you will definitely get the idea that XenSource is the dominating hypervisor within the “Cloud”. Of course Cloud means different things to different people. Not wanting to take Serguei’s comments out of context, but when he says “This will signal the eventual end of XEN”, that will only happen when marketing rebrand it J.
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 12:39 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Article: Parallels' Serguei Beloussov speaks out on free XenServer
BTW, don’t forget that according to the press releases Xen is “Cloud Proven”, that is my new requirement for all products! J
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85266
(602) 432-8649
steveg@thinclient.net
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Greg Reese
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:29 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Article: Parallels' Serguei Beloussov speaks out on free XenServer
yeah, i agree. some pretty strange stuff floating around out there.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Jeremy Saunders <Jeremy.Saunders@datacom.com.au> wrote:
Some bizarre comments indeed. Everyone that’s blogged and commented on this has had some strong opinions. Some border on what could be ignorance, as hard as they try to put a positive spin on it for themselves.
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of gareese@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:38 PM
To: Thin
Subject: [THIN] Article: Parallels’ Serguei Beloussov speaks out on free XenServer
Interesting read regarding some reaction to the announcement of free XenServer yesterday.
from Zdnet:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/virtualization/?p=726
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