[THIN] Re: Anyone using Application virtualization inside a Citrix/TS session?

There is also the infrastructure piece to consider with a streaming server
and how you make the redundant in a critical environment....

Steve Greenberg
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone using Application virtualization inside a
Citrix/TS session?

Good point I didn't realize an App-V cal really by device. The other
part of it doesn't concern me personally as much. We already maintain
an EA on our MS licenses.

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@gmail.com> wrote:
> But what is the real costs? Citrix's Solution is CCU where as Microsoft
is
> not. Also, doesn't App-V require SA and an Enterprise agreement?
>
> Joe
>
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> Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone using Application virtualization inside a
> Citrix/TS session?
>
> Thanks for the advice Steve. XenApp Enterprise does like kind of
> pricey (likely at least another $100USD/concurrent user) App-V TS is
> less than $40USD though with the integration with Citrix it might be
> worth it. Definitely going to pit them head to head.
> -Matt
>
> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Steve Greenberg <steveg@thinclient.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> We have done it for many years primarily with SoftGrid, now Microsoft
> App-V.
>> At this point for use in a Citrix farm I would suggest testing the Citrix
>> streaming solution. Earlier version were lacking but recently they have
>> worked on adding inter "Bubble" communications and are overcoming some of
>> the limitations of App-V in the process.
>>
>> I believe it is included with the Enterprise version of XenApp,
definitely
>> in Platinum......
>>
>> The short version has been from our experience to install the simple apps
>> that present no issues and have no real integration requirements into the
>> base OS and then stream the rest that require isolation, frequent
patches,
>> weird integration requirements, etc.
>>
>>
>> Again, I recommend trying the Citrix solution first because it is built
in
>> to the product and has minimal infrastructure requirements. If it doesn't
>> work then you can progress onto App-V or other solutions but they will
> have
>> additional cost and complexity.......
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve Greenberg
>> Thin Client Computing
>> 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
>> Scottsdale, AZ 85266
>> (602) 432-8649
>> www.thinclient.net
>> steveg@thinclient.net
>>
>>
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>> From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On
> Behalf
>> Of Matt Kosht
>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:09 PM
>> To: thin@freelists.org
>> Subject: [THIN] Anyone using Application virtualization inside a
Citrix/TS
>> session?
>>
>> Looking to test this for our Citrix farm in the near future. My
>> objective is to sequence most apps we use on our farm to make the
>> actual Citrix server nothing more than an OS and place for the
>> virtualized apps to run. What do you use? Why did you choose/stick
>> with this product? I know Citrix has their own app streaming in
>> XA5.0, but don't you have to run Enterprise or Platinum editions to
>> get this functionality? Anyone use App-V for Terminal Services? Is
>> this better/worse solution than Citrix? Other products I should try
>> evaluating that do this would also be welcome.
>> -Matt
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