ThinList Blog: 2008-09-14

Saturday, September 20, 2008

[THIN] Re: New Microsoft ad is out

I was taught to not give in to peer presure!

;)

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 20, 2008, at 5:14 PM, "Greg Reese" <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:

i'm still not impressed. so the message is use a pc because everyone else does?

2008/9/19 Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms <jkenzig@gmail.com>

I'm a PC
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/

Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

[THIN] Re: F5 vs NetScaler

You should definitely use Netscaler in this scenario!

If you want to replace F5 use Netscaler Enterprise, if not buy Netcaler in the form of "Access Gateway Enterprise", same box minus the web acceleration, L4 load balancing, etc.....

Steve

Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

From: "zyg cw" <zygonlist@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:56:53 -0400
To: <thin@freelists.org>
Subject: [THIN] F5 vs NetScaler

We have Citrix PS 4.0/4.5 farms with about 1000 users. In about 12 months we expect to have about 4000 users and most of them external.

Currently all external users use Cisco VPN and then WI to connect to our Citrix servers and we have decided to install CAG devices to handle their connection.

After reading some documentation I found that it would be better idea if we buy NetScaler devices with built in CAG so that we can monitor and load balance WI, XML etc.

Our network guys are using F5 and I was asked if I can send to them some kind of comparison of F5 and NetScaler (what the devices can, and what they can't do). Does any of you have some kind of comparison?

I would be really glad having NetScaler with CAG but the decision will be made by our network team.

Do you think it would be a good idea to switch from F5 to NetScaler?

Maybe use CAG and F5?

Any advice is much appreciated.

Thank you for any information

Ziggy

Friday, September 19, 2008

[THIN] Re: New Microsoft ad is out

Never ever doubt the "Wrath of Kenzig"®

http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/19/microsoft.seinfeld.ap/index.html

2008/9/20 Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms <jkenzig@gmail.com>

I'm a PC
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/

Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

[THIN] Re: New Microsoft ad is out

If this is true someone screwed up big time! What happened to eating
your own dogfood. Hmmm didnt Seinfeld ask Bill if something chewy was
coming along?

On 9/19/08, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:
> this is just too funny!
>
> http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/09/19/microsofts_im_a_pc_campaign_created_with_macs.html
>
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Jason Patten <jasoncitrix@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You are unique, just like everyone else.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> i'm still not impressed. so the message is use a pc because everyone else
>>> does?
>>>
>>> 2008/9/19 Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms <jkenzig@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> I'm a PC
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/
>>>>
>>>> Jim Kenzig
>>>> Blog: http://www.techblink.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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Blog: http://www.techblink.com
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[THIN] Re: New Microsoft ad is out

this is just too funny!

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/09/19/microsofts_im_a_pc_campaign_created_with_macs.html

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Jason Patten <jasoncitrix@gmail.com> wrote:

You are unique, just like everyone else.

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:

i'm still not impressed. so the message is use a pc because everyone else does?

2008/9/19 Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms <jkenzig@gmail.com>

I'm a PC
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/

Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

[THIN] Re: National Talk Like a Pirate day

I refuse to talk like a pirate!...

Pay not attention to the parrot, he doesn't know what he is talking about

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Nick Smith <nick@officeanyplace.com> wrote:

In fact it's *Inter*national Talk Like a Pirate Day.

We aarrrrr talking like pirates even in the UK, Jim-lad.

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms
Sent: 19 September 2008 17:06
To: THIN; windows2000@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] National Talk Like a Pirate day

Today is Naitonal Talk like a Pirate day.

My contribution:

Q. What do pirates kids say when they are riding in the car?

A. Aarrr we there yet?

Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

[THIN] Re: New Microsoft ad is out

You are unique, just like everyone else.

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:

i'm still not impressed. so the message is use a pc because everyone else does?

2008/9/19 Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms <jkenzig@gmail.com>

I'm a PC
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/

Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

[THIN] Re: National Talk Like a Pirate day

In fact it’s *Inter*national Talk Like a Pirate Day.

We aarrrrr talking like pirates even in the UK, Jim-lad.

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms
Sent: 19 September 2008 17:06
To: THIN; windows2000@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] National Talk Like a Pirate day

Today is Naitonal Talk like a Pirate day.

My contribution:

Q. What do pirates kids say when they are riding in the car?

A. Aarrr we there yet?

Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

[THIN] Re: New Microsoft ad is out

i'm still not impressed. so the message is use a pc because everyone else does?

2008/9/19 Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms <jkenzig@gmail.com>

I'm a PC
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/

Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

[THIN] New Microsoft ad is out

I'm a PC
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/

Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

[THIN] Re: National Talk Like a Pirate day

I sentence you to walk the plank for that

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms <jkenzig@gmail.com> wrote:

Today is Naitonal Talk like a Pirate day.

My contribution:

Q. What do pirates kids say when they are riding in the car?

A. Aarrr we there yet?

Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

[THIN] National Talk Like a Pirate day

Today is Naitonal Talk like a Pirate day.

My contribution:

Q. What do pirates kids say when they are riding in the car?

A. Aarrr we there yet?

Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

[THIN] Re: Citrix 4.0 access from Cell card or cruise ship

If he’s got the latest v10 of the ica client (or later) you could use edgesight to demonstrate that its his session: mind thats the equivalent of saying ‘yes, you do have a problem – well done you’.

At this point i’ve found it best not to offer a prize.

This document may help http://support.citrix.com/servlet/KbServlet/download/2131-102-10532/wWAN_Optimization_WP_3.pdf

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Peterson David
Sent: 19 September 2008 13:51
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Citrix 4.0 access from Cell card or cruise ship

I have a user who lately has been complaining about the speed of Citrix, even when he is pretty much the only one on, 3-4am where most of my users are. This last time he was on a cruise ship, and I think he uses a Verizon card at times either. He is the only one complaining, I checked with others during the peak usage of the day and they were fine.

I know that there are latency issues with cell cards, and I'm assuming the same is true for cruise ships. Is there anything I can do to improve performance in these situations without negatively affecting normal user performance?

He also is complaining about it freezing up for up to a minute, I'm wondering if he's losing his connection and session reliability is kicking in.

Thanks

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[THIN] Re: Citrix 4.0 access from Cell card or cruise ship

The cruise ships use satellite for Internet connectivity when they are out of port (no line of site for anything else). Setting the connection to satellite to account for the high latency is about all you can do. Short of getting him a spool of fiber to hang off the bow, he is travelling in a limited Internet area and Citrix (gasp) might not be the right solution.

Pat Coughlin

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Peterson David <DPETERSO@dinslaw.com> wrote:

I have a user who lately has been complaining about the speed of Citrix, even when he is pretty much the only one on, 3-4am where most of my users are. This last time he was on a cruise ship, and I think he uses a Verizon card at times either. He is the only one complaining, I checked with others during the peak usage of the day and they were fine.

I know that there are latency issues with cell cards, and I'm assuming the same is true for cruise ships. Is there anything I can do to improve performance in these situations without negatively affecting normal user performance?

He also is complaining about it freezing up for up to a minute, I'm wondering if he's losing his connection and session reliability is kicking in.

Thanks

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[THIN] Re: Citrix 4.0 access from Cell card or cruise ship

Typical attorney

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Peterson David
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:51 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Citrix 4.0 access from Cell card or cruise ship

He also is complaining about it freezing up for up to a minute, I'm wondering if he's losing his connection and session reliability is kicking in.

Thanks

[THIN] Citrix 4.0 access from Cell card or cruise ship

He also is complaining about it freezing up for up to a minute, I'm wondering if he's losing his connection and session reliability is kicking in.

Thanks

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Thursday, September 18, 2008

[THIN] October Edition of Technet Magazine Packed with Virtualization stuff

The October version of Technet Magazine is now online and is packed with Hyper-V, SCVMM and Virtualization articles.
Check it out at:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/default.aspx

Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

[THIN] Re: Show Clock on XenApp 4.5/Server 2003

That would change the whole Stuckrecs2 key and not just the one bit he wants to toggle.

Joe

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 4:36 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Show Clock on XenApp 4.5/Server 2003

Yes and that is easily done via the patented kenzig CUI trick. Going to a command prompt, running change user /install make your changes to add the clock. Then do a change user /execute from the command prompt.

Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:

I just set it in the mandantory profile, or one should be able to set it in the default profile if one is not using mandantory profiles

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Jeremy Saunders <Jeremy.Saunders@datacom.com.au> wrote:

Hi Adam,

I've been using that script and method on all deployments for years, and it works a treat.

However, you need to understand that it won't change for the first login, or after you have deleted their profile….only on the second login. This is because the explorer.exe shell has already started, and initialized itself, so the registry changes will have no effect until the next time it starts. It's extremely difficult to get in and do stuff before explorer.exe initializes. You can test this by killing the explorer.exe process and starting a new one.

Cheers,

Jeremy.

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Adam Rosenberger
Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2008 10:41 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Show Clock on XenApp 4.5/Server 2003

I am beyond frustrated now.

I have been trying for 3 days now to show the clock for a published desktop. In my GPO, I have made sure to disable the choices to hide the clock and hide notification area (systray).

I have tried various reg hacks, to no avail. I finally stumbled upon an old posting from Jeff Durbin on 2003 in which he posted a script file which is then referenced by usrlogon.cmd. This still failed to work.

After further research another posting from Jeremy Saunders in 2007 referenced adding the following to the usrlogon.cmd:

cscript "%systemroot%\system32\SetTaskBarOptions.vbs" //Nologo

This has also failed to work.

Can anyone please advise?

Adam Rosenberger

RSK-SImon, LLC

Director of Information Systems

arosenberger@seniorlivingnow.com

704-774-4025

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[THIN] Bootable HP client on a USB stick!

COOL!
http://geekswithblogs.net/WallabyFan/archive/2008/08/07/easiest-bootable-winpe-on-a-usb-stick---10-mins.aspx

Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

[THIN] Re: Show Clock on XenApp 4.5/Server 2003

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:

I just set it in the mandantory profile, or one should be able to set it in the default profile if one is not using mandantory profiles

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Jeremy Saunders <Jeremy.Saunders@datacom.com.au> wrote:

Hi Adam,

I've been using that script and method on all deployments for years, and it works a treat.

However, you need to understand that it won't change for the first login, or after you have deleted their profile….only on the second login. This is because the explorer.exe shell has already started, and initialized itself, so the registry changes will have no effect until the next time it starts. It's extremely difficult to get in and do stuff before explorer.exe initializes. You can test this by killing the explorer.exe process and starting a new one.

Cheers,

Jeremy.

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Adam Rosenberger
Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2008 10:41 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Show Clock on XenApp 4.5/Server 2003

I am beyond frustrated now.

I have been trying for 3 days now to show the clock for a published desktop. In my GPO, I have made sure to disable the choices to hide the clock and hide notification area (systray).

I have tried various reg hacks, to no avail. I finally stumbled upon an old posting from Jeff Durbin on 2003 in which he posted a script file which is then referenced by usrlogon.cmd. This still failed to work.

After further research another posting from Jeremy Saunders in 2007 referenced adding the following to the usrlogon.cmd:

cscript "%systemroot%\system32\SetTaskBarOptions.vbs" //Nologo

This has also failed to work.

Can anyone please advise?

Adam Rosenberger

RSK-SImon, LLC

Director of Information Systems

arosenberger@seniorlivingnow.com

704-774-4025

This communication,along with any documents, files or attachments, is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain legally privileged and confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of any information contained in or attached to this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying, distributing,printing or saving it or its attachments in any manner, and notify the sender of the error by reply e-mail or by calling 704-372-7892. This communication does not form any contractual obligation on behalf of the sender or RSL-Simon, LLC and its subsidiaries.

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[THIN] Xenapps 5.0 for Windows 2003

I have seen posts on this and I know it’s probably been discussed but someone please lay it out for me…..I am currently running PS40 on Windows 2003 and have a need to go 64 bit on some of my servers…I have been waiting for Xenapp 5 to be released but now I understand that to get the “real” 5.0 version you need Windows Server 08….Our organization is not ready for Server 08 from an OS and from a TSCAL licensing perspective...Am I to understand that Xenapp 5 for Server 2003 is really Xenapp 4.5 at the core? Is the version downloaded “patched” up or do we need to install hotfixes and HRP as though it was 4.5 to begin with? Is licensing different? How do I get the Edgesight plugin that enhances RM? This whole thing confuses me as I was expecting a branded 5.0 version for 2003……Any explanations are appreciated….

[THIN] Re: Show Clock on XenApp 4.5/Server 2003

I just set it in the mandantory profile, or one should be able to set it in the default profile if one is not using mandantory profiles

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Jeremy Saunders <Jeremy.Saunders@datacom.com.au> wrote:

Hi Adam,

I've been using that script and method on all deployments for years, and it works a treat.

However, you need to understand that it won't change for the first login, or after you have deleted their profile….only on the second login. This is because the explorer.exe shell has already started, and initialized itself, so the registry changes will have no effect until the next time it starts. It's extremely difficult to get in and do stuff before explorer.exe initializes. You can test this by killing the explorer.exe process and starting a new one.

Cheers,

Jeremy.

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Adam Rosenberger
Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2008 10:41 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Show Clock on XenApp 4.5/Server 2003

I am beyond frustrated now.

I have been trying for 3 days now to show the clock for a published desktop. In my GPO, I have made sure to disable the choices to hide the clock and hide notification area (systray).

I have tried various reg hacks, to no avail. I finally stumbled upon an old posting from Jeff Durbin on 2003 in which he posted a script file which is then referenced by usrlogon.cmd. This still failed to work.

After further research another posting from Jeremy Saunders in 2007 referenced adding the following to the usrlogon.cmd:

cscript "%systemroot%\system32\SetTaskBarOptions.vbs" //Nologo

This has also failed to work.

Can anyone please advise?

Adam Rosenberger

RSK-SImon, LLC

Director of Information Systems

arosenberger@seniorlivingnow.com

704-774-4025

This communication,along with any documents, files or attachments, is intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain legally privileged and confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of any information contained in or attached to this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying, distributing,printing or saving it or its attachments in any manner, and notify the sender of the error by reply e-mail or by calling 704-372-7892. This communication does not form any contractual obligation on behalf of the sender or RSL-Simon, LLC and its subsidiaries.

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[THIN] Re: Show Clock on XenApp 4.5/Server 2003

Hi Adam,

I’ve been using that script and method on all deployments for years, and it works a treat.

However, you need to understand that it won’t change for the first login, or after you have deleted their profile….only on the second login. This is because the explorer.exe shell has already started, and initialized itself, so the registry changes will have no effect until the next time it starts. It’s extremely difficult to get in and do stuff before explorer.exe initializes. You can test this by killing the explorer.exe process and starting a new one.

Cheers,

Jeremy.

I am beyond frustrated now.

I have been trying for 3 days now to show the clock for a published desktop. In my GPO, I have made sure to disable the choices to hide the clock and hide notification area (systray).

After further research another posting from Jeremy Saunders in 2007 referenced adding the following to the usrlogon.cmd:

cscript "%systemroot%\system32\SetTaskBarOptions.vbs" //Nologo

This has also failed to work.

Can anyone please advise?

Adam Rosenberger

RSK-SImon, LLC

Director of Information Systems

arosenberger@seniorlivingnow.com

704-774-4025

[THIN] Re: F5 vs NetScaler

This is always a challenging problem!!

For a list of features just jump on the Citrix Web site for the comparisons, However if its an Access Gateway you require (ICA over SSL or a CSG type of experience) then as far as I am aware this is not possible with F5 (only VPN with the correct module)also the F5 cannot offer the integration into your XenApp environment i.e. Smart Access features. If it’s pure load balancing features that you are looking for then I think they are similar each have pros and cons. For the load balancing features as you mention then you will require more than AG-EE you will require the Enterprise Netscaler at much higher cost. This is the same appliance just a different license. Also remember that AG-EE can offer full redundancy with the AG-EE license for Web Services (this is redundancy and not load balancing) this has been a real boon in high availability scenarios for me in the past.

Hope this helps

Peter

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of zyg cw
Sent: Friday, 19 September 2008 2:57 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] F5 vs NetScaler

We have Citrix PS 4.0/4.5 farms with about 1000 users. In about 12 months we expect to have about 4000 users and most of them external.

Currently all external users use Cisco VPN and then WI to connect to our Citrix servers and we have decided to install CAG devices to handle their connection.

After reading some documentation I found that it would be better idea if we buy NetScaler devices with built in CAG so that we can monitor and load balance WI, XML etc.

I would be really glad having NetScaler with CAG but the decision will be made by our network team.

Do you think it would be a good idea to switch from F5 to NetScaler?

Maybe use CAG and F5?

Any advice is much appreciated.

Thank you for any information

Ziggy

[THIN] Usage Report for CAG

Anyone know if I can run a peak usage report against my CAG?

Chad Schneider
Systems Engineer
ThedaCare IT
920-735-7615
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[THIN] Re: cannot launch on Vista

Well we installed firefox... everytime we go to the WI page Firefox crashes *...

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Jason Patten <jasoncitrix@gmail.com> wrote:

I havent verified temp file permissions, but she does have windows admin access, and she hasnt been available today. I will double check pop-ups but I dont think its the issue. Firefox is not on her machine.

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms <jkenzig@gmail.com> wrote:

DId you guys try it under Firefox to see if it was just IE? Dumb question but is popup blocker maybe stopping it? Have you verified permissions on the temp folders? (system F, user F)

Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Jan <tinybeetle@gmail.com> wrote:

In one of the instances I did. Still no luck.

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 7:21 AM, Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms <jkenzig@gmail.com> wrote:

Did you delete the Citrix registry keys also?

Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Jan <tinybeetle@gmail.com> wrote:

When I've run into this, uninstalling and reinstalling did nothing. I even went and removed up all of the hidden Citrix directories. Still nothing. The only thing that worked was to use another browser.

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms <j wrote:

I've had this issue happen to me several times. Uninstall and reinstall the citrix client and it should fix.
Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Jason Patten <jasm> wrote:

I have an issue with a client that is driving me up a wall.
She is using Vista and we have the latest 10.2 client installed, however when she clicks on the icon in WI to access our app, nothing happens.

If we Right-click and try to save we get an error that it is not allowed to be saved.
This one has me stumped and she has full Admin access on her local laptop.
Its not a license issue since she has never connected in the first place successfully and I checked and there is no entry for the license.

"Do not save encrypted pages to disk" is unchecked, and our WI page is a trusted site with low security.

Jason

[THIN] Re: Linux Thin Client sound issues

No thanks to horrible HP/Neo support... This issue is fixable by
upgrading to the latest Neolinux version 4.0.2.
Neolinux 3 support is basically zero now (which is what I was using).
The other reason I had to go to this version was to get dual monitor
support. Neoware had a dual monitor snap-in that worked for Neolinux 3
but alas HP no longer supports the snap-in and hasn't upgraded it to
work with newer versions Neolinux 3.x.
IMO HP seems to be pulling the plug on Neolinux. I see they have some
OS called ThinConnect/ThinPro on their new soon to be released thins.
Anybody seen one of these or know what it is? Also looks like this
new OS won't have the option of having a Citrix Desktop Receiver
(XenDesktop). The Debian powered ones do support it though. At any
rate I will be shopping for a new thin client to replace the Neoware
e140 we have been buying.

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Matt Kosht <matt.kosht@gmail.com> wrote:
> Having some issues with a Neoware e140 (Neolinux OS) running the Linux
> ICA client (10.6). If I launch a desktop ICA session I hear the
> Windows startup.wav. If I go to play an audio file in media player.
> It sounds strange for about a second and then quits sound altogether.
> Sound won't work again till I logoff/on to the session again. If I
> launch an RDP session on the same thin client audio works fine
> consistently. If I use my Citrix PN Agent (ahem XenApp Plugin for
> Hosted Apps) v11 it also has no issues with the same server and audio.
> So this is definitely a Linux Citrix client issue IMO.
>
> Back end is Win 2003/PS4.0/R05 server
> I have sound enabled in the ICA settings (medium) on the client. I
> have the default "enable legacy sound support" option checked on the
> published desktop also. The Citrix server itself is set to "Medium"
> on the ICA protocol settings.
>
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[THIN] F5 vs NetScaler

We have Citrix PS 4.0/4.5 farms with about 1000 users. In about 12 months we expect to have about 4000 users and most of them external.

Currently all external users use Cisco VPN and then WI to connect to our Citrix servers and we have decided to install CAG devices to handle their connection.

After reading some documentation I found that it would be better idea if we buy NetScaler devices with built in CAG so that we can monitor and load balance WI, XML etc.

I would be really glad having NetScaler with CAG but the decision will be made by our network team.

Do you think it would be a good idea to switch from F5 to NetScaler?

Maybe use CAG and F5?

Any advice is much appreciated.

Thank you for any information

Ziggy

[THIN] Re: Printers disappearing and sometimes coming back

We use Tricerat’s Screwdrivers. Upon installation 98% of all printing issues went away. Massive improvement. Citrix printing = not so good.

* My name is Chris Grecsek and I approve this message.

PS - …sorry got a little carried away with all these political ads on TV these days! ;)

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chris grecsek | centered networks | t:415-294-7776 | m:415-420-3397 | chris@centerednetworks.com

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of George Wasgatt
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:49 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Printers disappearing and sometimes coming back

There were no spooler issues, no event bad log entries and the applications were told to start without waiting for the printers to be created – thanks for the tips. However, the problem turned out to be that the IE Published Application was starting up in a separate ICA session. All of the other apps were staring in the same ICA session but for some unknown reason the IE session was starting its own ICA session. This duplicated all of the users printers on the server and somehow made the first set of printers not available to applications using the other ICA session.

I couldn’t see anything in the published application that would have forced it to go to a separate ICA session so I deleted the published application and recreated it. The problem went away. All of the applications now start in the same ICA session.

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org on behalf of George Wasgatt
Sent: Thu 18/09/2008 1:32 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Printers disappearing and sometimes coming back

I’m trying to add new servers to my farm but each time I build a new server people using that server report that their auto created printers disappear and come back again later. I do not have this problem on existing servers and I am building the new servers with the same service packs & patches as the existing servers. The auto created printers are actually still there on the server, it’s just that the running published applications lose contact with them for a while. The only common thread we can find is that the printers disappear only after the user start up a published application of IE6. Here’s the sequence of events:

User starts Citrix Program Neighborhood (V9, V10, V11 - all tested)

User start Outlook – printers are there & can be printed to

User starts IE published application – printers are there & can be printed to

User clicks back to Outlook Window – printers are gone

User clicks back to IE Windows – printers are there, sometimes later the printer reappears, restart the published app helps too

Environment: Windows 2003 SP1, Citrix 4.0 Enterprise Rollup 1, one farm all servers configured with the same set of published applications

The new servers are either HP BL460c blade servers or VMWare ESX servers. I tried patching the servers to Windows 2003 SP2 & all avalbie patches and bringing Citrix up to Rollup 5 but the problem persists.

[THIN] Re: Printers disappearing and sometimes coming back

There were no spooler issues, no event bad log entries and the applications
were told to start without waiting for the printers to be created - thanks
for the tips. However, the problem turned out to be that the IE Published
Application was starting up in a separate ICA session. All of the other
apps were staring in the same ICA session but for some unknown reason the IE
session was starting its own ICA session. This duplicated all of the users
printers on the server and somehow made the first set of printers not
available to applications using the other ICA session.

I couldn't see anything in the published application that would have forced
it to go to a separate ICA session so I deleted the published application
and recreated it. The problem went away. All of the applications now start
in the same ICA session.

_____

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org on behalf of George Wasgatt
Sent: Thu 18/09/2008 1:32 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Printers disappearing and sometimes coming back

I'm trying to add new servers to my farm but each time I build a new server
people using that server report that their auto created printers disappear
and come back again later. I do not have this problem on existing servers
and I am building the new servers with the same service packs & patches as
the existing servers. The auto created printers are actually still there on
the server, it's just that the running published applications lose contact
with them for a while. The only common thread we can find is that the
printers disappear only after the user start up a published application of
IE6. Here's the sequence of events:

User starts Citrix Program Neighborhood (V9, V10, V11 - all tested)

User start Outlook - printers are there & can be printed to

User starts IE published application - printers are there & can be printed
to

User clicks back to Outlook Window - printers are gone

User clicks back to IE Windows - printers are there, sometimes later the
printer reappears, restart the published app helps too

Environment: Windows 2003 SP1, Citrix 4.0 Enterprise Rollup 1, one farm all
servers configured with the same set of published applications

The new servers are either HP BL460c blade servers or VMWare ESX servers. I
tried patching the servers to Windows 2003 SP2 & all avalbie patches and
bringing Citrix up to Rollup 5 but the problem persists.

[THIN] Re: Show Clock on XenApp 4.5/Server 2003

Something like this? You might have to login a couple times before it works. You could also change the registry in the Default User Profile.

const HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE = &H80000002
const HKEY_CURRENT_USER = &H80000001
strComputer = "."
Set StdOut = WScript.StdOut

Set oReg=GetObject("winmgmts:{impersonationLevel=impersonate}!\\" &_
strComputer & "\root\default:StdRegProv")

strKeyPath = "Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\StuckRects2"
strValueName = "Settings"
oReg.GetBinaryValue HKEY_CURRENT_USER,strKeyPath,strValueName,strValue

strValue(8) = &H00000002

oReg.SetBinaryValue HKEY_CURRENT_USER,strKeyPath,strValueName,strValue

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Adam Rosenberger <arosenberger@seniorlivingnow.com> wrote:

I am beyond frustrated now.

I have been trying for 3 days now to show the clock for a published desktop. In my GPO, I have made sure to disable the choices to hide the clock and hide notification area (systray).

I have tried various reg hacks, to no avail. I finally stumbled upon an old posting from Jeff Durbin on 2003 in which he posted a script file which is then referenced by usrlogon.cmd. This still failed to work.

After further research another posting from Jeremy Saunders in 2007 referenced adding the following to the usrlogon.cmd:

cscript "%systemroot%\system32\SetTaskBarOptions.vbs" //Nologo

This has also failed to work.

Can anyone please advise?

Adam Rosenberger

RSK-SImon, LLC

Director of Information Systems

arosenberger@seniorlivingnow.com

704-774-4025

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[THIN] Show Clock on XenApp 4.5/Server 2003

I am beyond frustrated now.

I have been trying for 3 days now to show the clock for a published desktop. In my GPO, I have made sure to disable the choices to hide the clock and hide notification area (systray).

After further research another posting from Jeremy Saunders in 2007 referenced adding the following to the usrlogon.cmd:

cscript "%systemroot%\system32\SetTaskBarOptions.vbs" //Nologo

This has also failed to work.

Can anyone please advise?

Adam Rosenberger

RSK-SImon, LLC

Director of Information Systems

arosenberger@seniorlivingnow.com

704-774-4025

[THIN] Re: Laptop Creativity

Becrypt do a Trusted Client – I’ve been looking at it for a client – its not without faults; least of which is an annoying habit of not supporting hardware meaning that you have a secure remote client that is soooo secure that the user is unable to use it L

That has disc encryption built in mind – and is based around a linux desktop so local apps are a bit different.

With vista you’ve a disk encryption option - and most new laptops have finger print readers for that extra touch – and you can apply policies to lock down the USB ports to only accept data in – or only write to encrypted devices.

If you want a “secure environment” you can’t avoid “complications” of encryption - simple as – tell them to stop being silly, or that its not ‘encryption’ its erm... virtualised security.

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Nick Smith
Sent: 18 September 2008 11:49
To: 'thin@freelists.org'
Subject: [THIN] Laptop Creativity

Guys,

One of my clients is finally having to give in for executive demands for laptops (They are currently in a mixed thin/thick environement). They want to avoid complications of encryption etc, but the execs will need to be able to work in some way that will synch when back at the office.

They went to a vmware seminar where they were touting a ‘PC on a USB Stick’ as a possible solution to this; while cool I’m not convinced that it makes a lot of sense as it’s far easier to lose than a laptop.

Any other creative solutions out there?

Nick

[THIN] Re: PNAgent passthru weirdness

The desktop Access icon is likely defective. Microsoft uses the "shell extensions" to enable the special functionality of some Icons like the office and IE icons. If you right click on a special icon, you do not see the path to the executable, only a reference. The easy fix is to delete the special icon and create a normal icon pointing to the maccess.exe file in your office install. Alternatively, you can repair or reinstall office or perform a registry hack to repair faulty icon.

Pat Coughlin

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:

mps 4.5, W2K3R2 w/SP2, pnagent 10.2 - all was well until I had to reinstall mps after a datastore migration didn't go so well.

About 30 published apps

- all launch okay from the WI including from within a published desktop

- all launch okay from the PNAgent icon in the system tray from a published desktop (passthru)

- all launch okay from the desktop icon on a published desktop, *except* for ms access; it just refuses to launch from the start menu or desktop icon but it'll launch from the PNAgent icon and from WI.

I've no idea where to begin looking - did the obvious - reboot, reload the ica client, republish the app; still no dice.

[THIN] Re: Laptop Creativity

Most of the new versions of laptops have fingerprint readers on them you can set up and make necessary for logon. Isn't that secure enough?

Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Nick Smith <nick@officeanyplace.com> wrote:

Guys,

One of my clients is finally having to give in for executive demands for laptops (They are currently in a mixed thin/thick environement). They want to avoid complications of encryption etc, but the execs will need to be able to work in some way that will synch when back at the office.

They went to a vmware seminar where they were touting a 'PC on a USB Stick' as a possible solution to this; while cool I'm not convinced that it makes a lot of sense as it's far easier to lose than a laptop.

Any other creative solutions out there?

Nick

[THIN] Laptop Creativity

Guys,

Any other creative solutions out there?

Nick

Wednesday, September 17, 2008

[THIN] PNAgent passthru weirdness

mps 4.5, W2K3R2 w/SP2, pnagent 10.2 - all was well until I had to reinstall mps after a datastore migration didn't go so well.

About 30 published apps

- all launch okay from the WI including from within a published desktop

- all launch okay from the PNAgent icon in the system tray from a published desktop (passthru)

- all launch okay from the desktop icon on a published desktop, *except* for ms access; it just refuses to launch from the start menu or desktop icon but it'll launch from the PNAgent icon and from WI.

I've no idea where to begin looking - did the obvious - reboot, reload the ica client, republish the app; still no dice.

[THIN] Re: Printers disappearing and sometimes coming back

We had the issue of printers not "appearing" sometimes, primarily because we were too 'quick' before citrix had connected ALL printers.

Have you tried selecting the option for the program to wait until all printers are connected? Slows the logon down but you will instantly know if that's the 'issue' you and the end users are seeing. . . though as you mention its when swapping between different programs... its a long shot don't suppose it would hurt to try?

________________________________

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org on behalf of George Wasgatt
Sent: Thu 18/09/2008 1:32 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Printers disappearing and sometimes coming back

I'm trying to add new servers to my farm but each time I build a new server people using that server report that their auto created printers disappear and come back again later. I do not have this problem on existing servers and I am building the new servers with the same service packs & patches as the existing servers. The auto created printers are actually still there on the server, it's just that the running published applications lose contact with them for a while. The only common thread we can find is that the printers disappear only after the user start up a published application of IE6. Here's the sequence of events:

User starts Citrix Program Neighborhood (V9, V10, V11 - all tested)

User start Outlook - printers are there & can be printed to

User starts IE published application - printers are there & can be printed to

User clicks back to Outlook Window - printers are gone

User clicks back to IE Windows - printers are there, sometimes later the printer reappears, restart the published app helps too

Environment: Windows 2003 SP1, Citrix 4.0 Enterprise Rollup 1, one farm all servers configured with the same set of published applications

[THIN] Quickbooks 2008 on CAE and W2k3

Good evening everyone, has anyone been able to get Quickbooks 2008 working on their Citrix servers? I have not been able to do it so far. I did a google search but haven't come up with a lot so far.

Any ideas or suggestions???

Thanks

Jonathan

[THIN] Re: OT: OpenOffice 2/3

I started my basic testing with OpenOffice 3 RC1 and the first hurdle I immediately ran into is saving in a certain file format. I was hoping I could save as .DOC and .XLS in Word/Excel 2003 format, but that's not the case. It saves as .XML. While the cross-compatibility seems great, that's not friendly for e-mail attachments.

I can save as .DOC/.XLS in Word/Excel 97/2000/XP format. That seems to be rather regressed and could mean that a user tries to do something that doesn't save properly into that translated format, and really doens't have a good way to know if there's a translation problem.

So it seems that the method would be to save in native OpenOffice format, and then save another copy in 97/2000/XP format and either hope it looks OK, or test it on a machine that has Office 2003/2007 installed. I don't think I've overlooked anything, so I guess this is the biggest trade-off in my situation.

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jan
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 4:24 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: OpenOffice 2/3

If doing a CV, you should use the PDF feature of OpenOffice. Then you know that all of your formatting will be retained exactly as you wanted it.

OpenOffice 3 has not given me any formatting issues whatsoever thus far. You might want to give it another look.

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Nick Smith <nick@officeanyplace.com> wrote:

FWIW I suggested Googleapps to a charity and they had a similar issue - all OK other than formatting - they were trying to write CVs for disadvantaged kids, and they just weren't good enough printed to send to employers.

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Marc-André Lapierre
Sent: 17 September 2008 18:05
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: OpenOffice 2/3

I have a couple of customers using it. The worst part of Open office is with Writer. You lose almost 90% of the time the formatting of your text if you open and edit it with MS Office. So, most of the time, the document you create with Open Office is not gonna look good on someone's else screen using MS office.

Also, Large Excel spreadsheet with macros does not work well with Open Office.

-----Message d'origine-----
De : thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] De la part de Evan Mann
Envoyé : 17 septembre 2008 09:15
À : thin@freelists.org
Objet : [THIN] OT: OpenOffice 2/3

Has anyone spent any up close and personal time with OpenOffice 2 or 3
(now at RC1). I need to seriously look at the product as an alternative
for basic business users. It has the potential to save up to $10,000 in
licensing costs.

My basic business user runs e-mail and web based applications, and a lot
of PDF viewing. Some of them may not even open up any office app aside
from Outlook more then once or twice in a week. If they open
Word/Excel/PowerPoint, it's usually to view and print, or generate an
extremely low end document in terms of complexity.

I have Outlook 2003 licensing through my SBS 2003 R2 Premium licensing,
and all the desktop licensing is purchased OEM with that equipment, so
the core needs of the basic business user are covered. I need to
evaluate, and get real-world feedback on cross-compatibility of Office
2003 docs with OpenOffice 2, and Office 2007 docs with OpenOffice 3.
Focus is on Word and Excel with this compatibility

Power users will still have MS Office suite. I may setup a dedicated
workstation or VM for the basic business users to have access to MS
Office suite, should a compatibility issue arises. However, I don't
want that to be a daily occurance, that needs to be a once a month type
thing.

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