Friday, October 10, 2008

[THIN] Re: Load Balancing not working

weird - it did - thanks!

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 10:15 AM, TSguy92 Lan <tsguy92@gmail.com> wrote:
Drop the IMAservice and refresh the local host cache (may want to do this on both working and non-working server). See if you start getting load balanced sessions again after the IMAservice is restarted again.

A while back we had this happen as well out of nowhere for a few app servers, and an LHC refresh was the only way we could get the load balance to kick off again.

HTH

Lan




On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
checked that too - still set for server user load only
 
 
Configuration logging as already enabled on my new farm ;)

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:
default load rules in the CMC.  i bet Pratt changed them on you.


On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
PS4 farm, down to two load-balanced servers (and a third bastard child), latest hotfixes applied, WI 4.6 (I have a 4.5 farm waiting in the wings).
 
Been working fine for years - today, everything is launching on just one server. I don't see any errors on the unused server and reboot it for giggles. If I remove the loaded server from a published app and launch the app it'll launch on the unloaded server just fine. qfarm /load show the used server as being loaded and the unused as not (4900 vs 100).
 
Ideas where to look next?




[THIN] Re: Load Balancing not working

Drop the IMAservice and refresh the local host cache (may want to do this on both working and non-working server). See if you start getting load balanced sessions again after the IMAservice is restarted again.

A while back we had this happen as well out of nowhere for a few app servers, and an LHC refresh was the only way we could get the load balance to kick off again.

HTH

Lan



On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
checked that too - still set for server user load only
 
 
Configuration logging as already enabled on my new farm ;)

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:
default load rules in the CMC.  i bet Pratt changed them on you.


On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
PS4 farm, down to two load-balanced servers (and a third bastard child), latest hotfixes applied, WI 4.6 (I have a 4.5 farm waiting in the wings).
 
Been working fine for years - today, everything is launching on just one server. I don't see any errors on the unused server and reboot it for giggles. If I remove the loaded server from a published app and launch the app it'll launch on the unloaded server just fine. qfarm /load show the used server as being loaded and the unused as not (4900 vs 100).
 
Ideas where to look next?



[THIN] Re: Load Balancing not working

checked that too - still set for server user load only
 
 
Configuration logging as already enabled on my new farm ;)

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:
default load rules in the CMC.  i bet Pratt changed them on you.


On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
PS4 farm, down to two load-balanced servers (and a third bastard child), latest hotfixes applied, WI 4.6 (I have a 4.5 farm waiting in the wings).
 
Been working fine for years - today, everything is launching on just one server. I don't see any errors on the unused server and reboot it for giggles. If I remove the loaded server from a published app and launch the app it'll launch on the unloaded server just fine. qfarm /load show the used server as being loaded and the unused as not (4900 vs 100).
 
Ideas where to look next?


[THIN] Re: Load Balancing not working

nope, both still show as Enterprise

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:
did it's version get downgraded to standard or something maybe?




On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
The other thing I've noticed is that from the AMC when I select "view server health" I just get a blank screen for the unused server


On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
PS4 farm, down to two load-balanced servers (and a third bastard child), latest hotfixes applied, WI 4.6 (I have a 4.5 farm waiting in the wings).
 
Been working fine for years - today, everything is launching on just one server. I don't see any errors on the unused server and reboot it for giggles. If I remove the loaded server from a published app and launch the app it'll launch on the unloaded server just fine. qfarm /load show the used server as being loaded and the unused as not (4900 vs 100).
 
Ideas where to look next?



[THIN] Re: Load Balancing not working

did it's version get downgraded to standard or something maybe?



On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
The other thing I've noticed is that from the AMC when I select "view server health" I just get a blank screen for the unused server


On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
PS4 farm, down to two load-balanced servers (and a third bastard child), latest hotfixes applied, WI 4.6 (I have a 4.5 farm waiting in the wings).
 
Been working fine for years - today, everything is launching on just one server. I don't see any errors on the unused server and reboot it for giggles. If I remove the loaded server from a published app and launch the app it'll launch on the unloaded server just fine. qfarm /load show the used server as being loaded and the unused as not (4900 vs 100).
 
Ideas where to look next?


[THIN] Re: Load Balancing not working

default load rules in the CMC.  i bet Pratt changed them on you.

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
PS4 farm, down to two load-balanced servers (and a third bastard child), latest hotfixes applied, WI 4.6 (I have a 4.5 farm waiting in the wings).
 
Been working fine for years - today, everything is launching on just one server. I don't see any errors on the unused server and reboot it for giggles. If I remove the loaded server from a published app and launch the app it'll launch on the unloaded server just fine. qfarm /load show the used server as being loaded and the unused as not (4900 vs 100).
 
Ideas where to look next?

[THIN] Re: Load Balancing not working

The other thing I've noticed is that from the AMC when I select "view server health" I just get a blank screen for the unused server

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
PS4 farm, down to two load-balanced servers (and a third bastard child), latest hotfixes applied, WI 4.6 (I have a 4.5 farm waiting in the wings).
 
Been working fine for years - today, everything is launching on just one server. I don't see any errors on the unused server and reboot it for giggles. If I remove the loaded server from a published app and launch the app it'll launch on the unloaded server just fine. qfarm /load show the used server as being loaded and the unused as not (4900 vs 100).
 
Ideas where to look next?

[THIN] Load Balancing not working

PS4 farm, down to two load-balanced servers (and a third bastard child), latest hotfixes applied, WI 4.6 (I have a 4.5 farm waiting in the wings).
 
Been working fine for years - today, everything is launching on just one server. I don't see any errors on the unused server and reboot it for giggles. If I remove the loaded server from a published app and launch the app it'll launch on the unloaded server just fine. qfarm /load show the used server as being loaded and the unused as not (4900 vs 100).
 
Ideas where to look next?

[THIN] Re: Virtualizing our Citrix license server

Just like it was on MFPS 3.0

 

De : thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] De la part de Steve Snyder
Envoyé : 9 octobre 2008 18:38
À : thin@freelists.org
Objet : [THIN] Re: Virtualizing our Citrix license server

 

only caveat is it is case-sensitive.

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Marc-André Lapierre <malapierre@malicis.com> wrote:

Nope... validation is made only on ServerName. Keep everything as is...

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Objet : [THIN] Virtualizing our Citrix license server


We are still running CPS 3.0 and are virtualizing our Flexlm License
server. The hostname will stay the same, but the IP and MAC address
will. Will I need to download a new license file from MyCitrix? We are
current on Subscription .. Should I download a a XenServer license file,
and will that work for a CPS 3.0 license request?




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[THIN] Re: Citrix Licensing service - share with other products?

Well each product gets it's own vendor daemon, and then there's the FlexLM service that manages all of those. The product requesting the license talks to the vendor daemon, not the master FlexLM service. (At least that is the way FlexLM is architected).
 
In some other FlexLM environments i have, I have three different vendor daemons (all different versions, too) running under the same umbrella Flex service. Citrix, however, is not one of them.
 
 


From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Saunders
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 5:41 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix Licensing service - share with other products?

Whilst the  underlying technology is the same, such as the license server daemon (lmgrd.exe), the vendor daemon (Citrix.exe), and the communications between the Citrix products and vendor daemon is very different in the way it works to say VMware.

 

Cheers,

Jeremy.

 

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Sent: Friday, 10 October 2008 6:16 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Citrix Licensing service - share with other products?

 

Just a silly thought, but since the citrix licensing server engine is the macrovision flexnet, any reason I couldn't use it to hand out licenses for other products that use the flexnet licensing engine? Anyone done it?


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Thursday, October 9, 2008

[THIN] Re: Insufficient system resources

Legally, R2 is a different OS, and you need to buy it  depends on your licence, and whether you have SA, but if you don’t it will probably cost you money.

 

Technically, R2 comes on 2 CDs; CD1 is *identical* to the ‘R1’ Windows 2003 CD; the second CD is where the bonus tools are.  Put CD2 in to your already installed ‘R1’, run the setup file (It *will* need an R2 licence key), and after about 20 minutes you have an R2 server.

 

Dunno about the page file though.

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Minero, Hector B CIV NSWCDD, K55
Sent: 09 October 2008 14:44
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Insufficient system resources

 

The profile permissions seem fine and everything works fine once the user load goes down.

I think the problem may be that the page file is only 4GB and the servers has 4GB of RAM.

a 4GB page file is the limit on regular Windows 2003 SP2.

I know that R2 does not have this limit.  So my question is:

 

Is there a way to go above a 4GB page file on Windows 2003?

Is there an upgrade path from Windows 2003 to Windows 2003 R2?  or is this a free upgrade?  Technically it is the same OS with some improvements.

 

Thanks,

 

 

_______________________________
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NSWCDD K55

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Subject: [THIN] Re: Insufficient system resources

Check this:

 

http://forums.citrix.com/thread.jspa?forumID=75&threadID=85213&messageID=559690&

 


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Subject: [THIN] Insufficient system resources

Hi all,

 

Lately users have been getting this error when they attempt to log on to our PS 4.0 Citris servers.

 

Description:
Windows cannot load the user's profile but has logged you on with the default profile for the system.

 DETAIL - Insufficient system resources exist to complete the requested service.

 

And since I don't allow local profiles, they can't log in.


I look in task manager and the system resources do not seem to be overutilized.  CPU is around 40 to 60%.

Memory usage seems normal.

I have Hotfix rollup 4 on the servers, no other patches.

Logging off a few users seems to correct the problem.

 

Any idea what else I should look for?

 

Currently, I have an idle timeout period of 3 hours, am I being too good?

 

Thanks,

 

________________________________________

Hector Minero

NSWCDD Code K55

Ph: (540)653-8859


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[THIN] Re: Citrix Licensing service - share with other products?

Whilst the  underlying technology is the same, such as the license server daemon (lmgrd.exe), the vendor daemon (Citrix.exe), and the communications between the Citrix products and vendor daemon is very different in the way it works to say VMware.

 

Cheers,

Jeremy.

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Steve Snyder
Sent: Friday, 10 October 2008 6:16 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Citrix Licensing service - share with other products?

 

Just a silly thought, but since the citrix licensing server engine is the macrovision flexnet, any reason I couldn't use it to hand out licenses for other products that use the flexnet licensing engine? Anyone done it?


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[THIN] Re: Virtualizing our Citrix license server

only caveat is it is case-sensitive.

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:27 AM, Marc-André Lapierre <malapierre@malicis.com> wrote:
Nope... validation is made only on ServerName. Keep everything as is...

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Objet : [THIN] Virtualizing our Citrix license server

We are still running CPS 3.0 and are virtualizing our Flexlm License
server. The hostname will stay the same, but the IP and MAC address
will. Will I need to download a new license file from MyCitrix? We are
current on Subscription .. Should I download a a XenServer license file,
and will that work for a CPS 3.0 license request?




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[THIN] Citrix Licensing service - share with other products?

Just a silly thought, but since the citrix licensing server engine is the macrovision flexnet, any reason I couldn't use it to hand out licenses for other products that use the flexnet licensing engine? Anyone done it?

[THIN] Re: Insufficient system resources

I'll give this a try.
Thanks,
 
 

_______________________________
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NSWCDD K55

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From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Saunders
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 2:33 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Insufficient system resources

Nah….run up  perfmon and have a look at pagefile usage. On a heavily utilized server I have only ever seen 30 – 40% max. To me it sounds like the paged pool memory is not coping.

 

As per Microsoft TechNet article KB312362. By default, the Memory Manager tries to trim allocated paged pool memory when the system reaches 80 percent of the total paged pool. Depending on the system configuration, a possible maximum paged pool memory on a computer can be 343MB (Windows 2003 Standard) and 80 percent of this number is 274MB. If the Memory Manager is unable to trim fast enough to keep up with the demand, then you may receive event ID 2020 (The server was unable to allocate from the system paged pool because the pool was empty). But that is just one symptom.

 

By tuning the Memory Manager to start the trimming process earlier (for example, when it reaches 60 percent), it would be possible to keep up with the paged pool demand during sudden peak usage, and avoid running out of paged pool memory.

 

60% is the recommended baseline to start at.

 

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management]

"PagedPoolSize"=dword:ffffffff

"PoolUsageMaximum"=dword:0000003c

 

Cheers.

 

  Kind regards,
  Jeremy Saunders

 

  Senior Solution Architect - Virtualisation Specialist
  Datacom Systems (WA) Pty Ltd

  29 Oxford Close, West Leederville, Western Australia, 6007
  P +61 8 9210 0806 | F +61 8 9380 4226 | M +61 413 441 846

  Web     http://www.datacom.com.au/
  Email     jeremy.saunders@datacom.com.au

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From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Minero, Hector B CIV NSWCDD, K55
Sent: Thursday, 9 October 2008 9:44 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Insufficient system resources

 

The profile permissions seem fine and everything works fine once the user load goes down.

I think the problem may be that the page file is only 4GB and the servers has 4GB of RAM.

a 4GB page file is the limit on regular Windows 2003 SP2.

I know that R2 does not have this limit.  So my question is:

 

Is there a way to go above a 4GB page file on Windows 2003?

Is there an upgrade path from Windows 2003 to Windows 2003 R2?  or is this a free upgrade?  Technically it is the same OS with some improvements.

 

Thanks,

 

 

_______________________________
Hector Minero
NSWCDD K55

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From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Landin, Mark
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 3:45 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Insufficient system resources

Check this:

 

http://forums.citrix.com/thread.jspa?forumID=75&threadID=85213&messageID=559690&

 


From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Minero, Hector B CIV NSWCDD, K55
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 2:16 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Insufficient system resources

Hi all,

 

Lately users have been getting this error when they attempt to log on to our PS 4.0 Citris servers.

 

Description:
Windows cannot load the user's profile but has logged you on with the default profile for the system.

 DETAIL - Insufficient system resources exist to complete the requested service.

 

And since I don't allow local profiles, they can't log in.


I look in task manager and the system resources do not seem to be overutilized.  CPU is around 40 to 60%.

Memory usage seems normal.

I have Hotfix rollup 4 on the servers, no other patches.

Logging off a few users seems to correct the problem.

 

Any idea what else I should look for?

 

Currently, I have an idle timeout period of 3 hours, am I being too good?

 

Thanks,

 

________________________________________

Hector Minero

NSWCDD Code K55

Ph: (540)653-8859


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[THIN] Re: Insufficient system resources

Nah….run up  perfmon and have a look at pagefile usage. On a heavily utilized server I have only ever seen 30 – 40% max. To me it sounds like the paged pool memory is not coping.

 

As per Microsoft TechNet article KB312362. By default, the Memory Manager tries to trim allocated paged pool memory when the system reaches 80 percent of the total paged pool. Depending on the system configuration, a possible maximum paged pool memory on a computer can be 343MB (Windows 2003 Standard) and 80 percent of this number is 274MB. If the Memory Manager is unable to trim fast enough to keep up with the demand, then you may receive event ID 2020 (The server was unable to allocate from the system paged pool because the pool was empty). But that is just one symptom.

 

By tuning the Memory Manager to start the trimming process earlier (for example, when it reaches 60 percent), it would be possible to keep up with the paged pool demand during sudden peak usage, and avoid running out of paged pool memory.

 

60% is the recommended baseline to start at.

 

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management]

"PagedPoolSize"=dword:ffffffff

"PoolUsageMaximum"=dword:0000003c

 

Cheers.

 

  Kind regards,
  Jeremy Saunders

 

  Senior Solution Architect - Virtualisation Specialist
  Datacom Systems (WA) Pty Ltd

  29 Oxford Close, West Leederville, Western Australia, 6007
  P +61 8 9210 0806 | F +61 8 9380 4226 | M +61 413 441 846

  Web     http://www.datacom.com.au/
  Email     jeremy.saunders@datacom.com.au

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  Personal Blog     http://www.jhouseconsulting.com/index.php

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Minero, Hector B CIV NSWCDD, K55
Sent: Thursday, 9 October 2008 9:44 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Insufficient system resources

 

The profile permissions seem fine and everything works fine once the user load goes down.

I think the problem may be that the page file is only 4GB and the servers has 4GB of RAM.

a 4GB page file is the limit on regular Windows 2003 SP2.

I know that R2 does not have this limit.  So my question is:

 

Is there a way to go above a 4GB page file on Windows 2003?

Is there an upgrade path from Windows 2003 to Windows 2003 R2?  or is this a free upgrade?  Technically it is the same OS with some improvements.

 

Thanks,

 

 

_______________________________
Hector Minero
NSWCDD K55

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From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Landin, Mark
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 3:45 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Insufficient system resources

Check this:

 

http://forums.citrix.com/thread.jspa?forumID=75&threadID=85213&messageID=559690&

 


From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Minero, Hector B CIV NSWCDD, K55
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 2:16 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Insufficient system resources

Hi all,

 

Lately users have been getting this error when they attempt to log on to our PS 4.0 Citris servers.

 

Description:
Windows cannot load the user's profile but has logged you on with the default profile for the system.

 DETAIL - Insufficient system resources exist to complete the requested service.

 

And since I don't allow local profiles, they can't log in.


I look in task manager and the system resources do not seem to be overutilized.  CPU is around 40 to 60%.

Memory usage seems normal.

I have Hotfix rollup 4 on the servers, no other patches.

Logging off a few users seems to correct the problem.

 

Any idea what else I should look for?

 

Currently, I have an idle timeout period of 3 hours, am I being too good?

 

Thanks,

 

________________________________________

Hector Minero

NSWCDD Code K55

Ph: (540)653-8859


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[THIN] Re: timeout issue for Citrix newbee

Hi Jim

 

Sorry, this has now been narrowed down to 1 site. And yes all the users (2) on that site are having problems. However when citrix freezes up, the internet still works ok, so not so sure if it is a network thing, but you might be right. I am also looking into the pc thing, as I suspect both pc's might have been from the same image.

 

Thanks

 

Patrick



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Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2008 4:03:47 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: timeout issue for Citrix newbee

Patrick, this sounds like a network problem.  Are all the users at these two sites having problems?  Could also be their PC or network card/connection. 

 

Thank you,

 

Jim Medeiros


From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Patrick
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Subject: [THIN] timeout issue for Citrix newbee

 

Hi Guys,

 

I recently had to investigate why user on a certain site keep getting frozen out of a citrix hosted app. We have about 7 sites and this is happening on 2 the others are fine. I had to uninstall the ica client, and re-install, but that has not helped.

 

The freezing happens even though the users session is not idle. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

 

Thanks

 

Patrick

 

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[THIN] Re: Virtualizing our Citrix license server

Nope... validation is made only on ServerName. Keep everything as is...

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Objet : [THIN] Virtualizing our Citrix license server

We are still running CPS 3.0 and are virtualizing our Flexlm License
server. The hostname will stay the same, but the IP and MAC address
will. Will I need to download a new license file from MyCitrix? We are
current on Subscription .. Should I download a a XenServer license file,
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[THIN] Virtualizing our Citrix license server

We are still running CPS 3.0 and are virtualizing our Flexlm License
server. The hostname will stay the same, but the IP and MAC address
will. Will I need to download a new license file from MyCitrix? We are
current on Subscription .. Should I download a a XenServer license file,
and will that work for a CPS 3.0 license request?


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[THIN] Re: timeout issue for Citrix newbee

Patrick, this sounds like a network problem.  Are all the users at these two sites having problems?  Could also be their PC or network card/connection. 

 

Thank you,

 

Jim Medeiros


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Subject: [THIN] timeout issue for Citrix newbee

 

Hi Guys,

 

I recently had to investigate why user on a certain site keep getting frozen out of a citrix hosted app. We have about 7 sites and this is happening on 2 the others are fine. I had to uninstall the ica client, and re-install, but that has not helped.

 

The freezing happens even though the users session is not idle. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

 

Thanks

 

Patrick

 

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[THIN] timeout issue for Citrix newbee

Hi Guys,
 
I recently had to investigate why user on a certain site keep getting frozen out of a citrix hosted app. We have about 7 sites and this is happening on 2 the others are fine. I had to uninstall the ica client, and re-install, but that has not helped.
 
The freezing happens even though the users session is not idle. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
 
 
 
Thanks
 
Patrick

[THIN] Re: Insufficient system resources

The profile permissions seem fine and everything works fine once the user load goes down.
I think the problem may be that the page file is only 4GB and the servers has 4GB of RAM.
a 4GB page file is the limit on regular Windows 2003 SP2.
I know that R2 does not have this limit.  So my question is:
 
Is there a way to go above a 4GB page file on Windows 2003?
Is there an upgrade path from Windows 2003 to Windows 2003 R2?  or is this a free upgrade?  Technically it is the same OS with some improvements.
 
Thanks,
 
 

_______________________________
Hector Minero
NSWCDD K55

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Check this:
 


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Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 2:16 PM
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Subject: [THIN] Insufficient system resources

Hi all,
 
Lately users have been getting this error when they attempt to log on to our PS 4.0 Citris servers.
 
Description:
Windows cannot load the user's profile but has logged you on with the default profile for the system.
 DETAIL - Insufficient system resources exist to complete the requested service.
 
And since I don't allow local profiles, they can't log in.

I look in task manager and the system resources do not seem to be overutilized.  CPU is around 40 to 60%.
Memory usage seems normal.
I have Hotfix rollup 4 on the servers, no other patches.
Logging off a few users seems to correct the problem.
 
Any idea what else I should look for?
 
Currently, I have an idle timeout period of 3 hours, am I being too good?
 
Thanks,
 
________________________________________
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NSWCDD Code K55
Ph: (540)653-8859


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[THIN] Re: OT: VMWare backups

Joe,
Indeed, thats why I do not snapshot the files system if db's (ao) or db disks are involved, then I still use the combination of snapshotting the
OS & applications , the datafiles of the application are not snapshotted. But you are right, Microsoft Hyper V and
XenServer too, will quiesce the OS and applications, which makes the solution all the more flexible !

Regards,
 
Stefan
2008/10/8 Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@gmail.com>

The only problem with this method is it does not quiesce the OS and it's applications before taking the snapshot.  However, now with Hyper-V Microsoft has VSS support from the Parent Partition down the Application Level inside the Virtual Machine.

 

Joe

 

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Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:41 PM
To: thin@freelists.org


Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: VMWare backups

 

Another alternative is to create a REDO log using the esx shell command (vmkfstools & vmware-cmd on ESX2.5.X) , make an tradional tapebackup of the vmdk

on the ESX host, you can choose between veritas netbackup, TSM (Tivoli storage manager) or even other file backup systems (see on the Vmware compatibility list) if  you open the firewal with esxcfg (on ESX3) , and after the backup  commit your redo (log) file to the main vmdk file. You don't need any special license or program , just use what ESX offers you ! Never had any incident in 3 years doing so and even had one planned disaster recovery  exercise on this completed succesfully.

Ususally I do it as follows: the C:\ or system drive is done like I explained to quickly recover your OS and applications. for data recovery you choose

for backups inside the Virtual machine like there are SQLbackupagents, Notesbackupagents , ....

 

Regards,

 

 

Stefan



 

2008/10/8 <jstrowe@rochester.rr.com>

Esxpress is a good product.  We just had to do a server restore from a corrupted database and the incrementals worked just fine to roll us back 4 days.

The best method of backup is a combination, i.e. traditional agent inside the virtual machine and a product like esxpress to grab the vmdk files et al at the linux level.

Both methods provide a pretty decent level of coverage.




Msg: #3 in digest
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 09:18:05 -0400
From: Tom Diroff <tdiroff@umich.edu>
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: VMWare backups

 Hi
We use Esxpress ( esxpress.com) and have been pretty happy with it.

Good Luck

Tom Diroff
University of Michigan

Steve Snyder wrote: so how are ya'll backing up your virtuals?   Right now
we're backing up each virtual at their OS level, looking a vRanger to do a
back-end snapshot backup. Of course BUE 12.5 was just released which is
supposed to support vmware (and hyper-v) too.


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[THIN] Re: Insufficient system resources

Verify the permissions on your users profiles directory. Should be Admin Full, System Full, and User Full  There is something hokey with 2003 that causes security settings to get messed up when you do an windows update. Seems like every few months I have to reset permissions on my profiles folder on my server.  Look for .yourdomain added to your users profile directory folders also.  That will mess things up.
Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com


On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:16 PM, George Wasgatt <gwasgatt@gmail.com> wrote:

Run Perfmon and add Memory counter Free System Page Table Entries.  If the number is in the low thousands you have a problem.  It should be above one hundred thousand free.  I had this happen to a server that I initially loaded 8GB of memory into expecting to load 2003 X-64.  When I instead loaded 2003 X-32 it blew up when it got a full load of users because it ran out of FTEs.

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Minero, Hector B CIV NSWCDD, K55
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 3:16 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Insufficient system resources

 

Hi all,

 

Lately users have been getting this error when they attempt to log on to our PS 4.0 Citris servers.

 

Description:
Windows cannot load the user's profile but has logged you on with the default profile for the system.

 DETAIL - Insufficient system resources exist to complete the requested service.

 

And since I don't allow local profiles, they can't log in.


I look in task manager and the system resources do not seem to be overutilized.  CPU is around 40 to 60%.

Memory usage seems normal.

I have Hotfix rollup 4 on the servers, no other patches.

Logging off a few users seems to correct the problem.

 

Any idea what else I should look for?

 

Currently, I have an idle timeout period of 3 hours, am I being too good?

 

Thanks,

 

________________________________________

Hector Minero

NSWCDD Code K55

Ph: (540)653-8859


[THIN] Re: OT: VMWare backups

The only problem with this method is it does not quiesce the OS and it’s applications before taking the snapshot.  However, now with Hyper-V Microsoft has VSS support from the Parent Partition down the Application Level inside the Virtual Machine.

 

Joe

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Stefan Timmermans
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:41 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: VMWare backups

 

Another alternative is to create a REDO log using the esx shell command (vmkfstools & vmware-cmd on ESX2.5.X) , make an tradional tapebackup of the vmdk

on the ESX host, you can choose between veritas netbackup, TSM (Tivoli storage manager) or even other file backup systems (see on the Vmware compatibility list) if  you open the firewal with esxcfg (on ESX3) , and after the backup  commit your redo (log) file to the main vmdk file. You don't need any special license or program , just use what ESX offers you ! Never had any incident in 3 years doing so and even had one planned disaster recovery  exercise on this completed succesfully.

Ususally I do it as follows: the C:\ or system drive is done like I explained to quickly recover your OS and applications. for data recovery you choose

for backups inside the Virtual machine like there are SQLbackupagents, Notesbackupagents , ....

 

Regards,

 

 

Stefan



 

2008/10/8 <jstrowe@rochester.rr.com>

Esxpress is a good product.  We just had to do a server restore from a corrupted database and the incrementals worked just fine to roll us back 4 days.

The best method of backup is a combination, i.e. traditional agent inside the virtual machine and a product like esxpress to grab the vmdk files et al at the linux level.

Both methods provide a pretty decent level of coverage.




Msg: #3 in digest
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 09:18:05 -0400
From: Tom Diroff <tdiroff@umich.edu>
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: VMWare backups

 Hi
We use Esxpress ( esxpress.com) and have been pretty happy with it.

Good Luck

Tom Diroff
University of Michigan

Steve Snyder wrote: so how are ya'll backing up your virtuals?   Right now
we're backing up each virtual at their OS level, looking a vRanger to do a
back-end snapshot backup. Of course BUE 12.5 was just released which is
supposed to support vmware (and hyper-v) too.


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