Saturday, August 23, 2008

[THIN] Re: Disk space utilities

I know you are looking for a reporting utility but for quick and dirty view I love Sequoiaview which is a free utility that gives you a colored grapical treemap of the drive. The bigger the square the bigger the file. You can then right click on the square and get properties of the file and it will tell you when it was last accessed.  This will at least help you get the larger files off your drive in an expedient manner.
Check it out at:
 

Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com


On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 9:02 AM, <jstrowe@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
A bit off topic (but I've seen worse).  I'm looking for not just a "how much space" are directories/files taking up, but something that could give me age of files.

I'd like to propose a tiered storage plan, but don't have 20K to buy the top level programs to automatically move aged files.  I have to do the moving the old fashioned way by hand and it would be helpful to be able to say:
 xxx- files are 6 months old
 yyy - files are 18 months old  etc.

If I can tell folks, your file hasn't been modified or touched for the last 2 years and it's sucking up 40% of my available disk space.  It is a lot easier to sell moving these old files off to tape so I don't keep backing them up over and over again.

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[THIN] Disk space utilities

A bit off topic (but I've seen worse). I'm looking for not just a "how much space" are directories/files taking up, but something that could give me age of files.

I'd like to propose a tiered storage plan, but don't have 20K to buy the top level programs to automatically move aged files. I have to do the moving the old fashioned way by hand and it would be helpful to be able to say:
xxx- files are 6 months old
yyy - files are 18 months old etc.

If I can tell folks, your file hasn't been modified or touched for the last 2 years and it's sucking up 40% of my available disk space. It is a lot easier to sell moving these old files off to tape so I don't keep backing them up over and over again.

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Friday, August 22, 2008

[THIN] IPSEC Goofiness

When one of our Citrix servers rebooted overnight, it did not come back. The admin team determined that it was some kind of network problem. They could log in via the remote insight board but only as the local Administrator. Domain logins failed with a message that it couldn’t find the domain. It could not successfully ping its own default gateway. During a reboot, it responded to four pings and then went dead. They checked with the network team and everything looked fine from the switch side. Finally, they noticed that the IPSEC service was not listed as running and it could not be started.

 

Setting IPSEC to “Disabled” and rebooting brought the server back to life but the Citrix IMA service could no longer run. Attempting to start IPSEC immediately stopped all network traffic again.

 

Apparently, the local IPSEC policy can become corrupted. When this happens, the machine can’t determine who is safe to talk to so it completely shuts off communications. Luckily, we found the following web page that showed how to fix a corrupted policy.

 

http://msmvps.com/blogs/richardwu/archive/2006/01/13/80970.aspx

 

I’m passing this on in hopes of saving others some stress.

 

Steve Raffensberger

Citrix Administrator

Sovereign Bank

1125 Berkshire Boulevard

Wyomissing, PA 19610

email: sraffens@sovereignbank.com

 


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[THIN] What do you use to check windows account password age, compliance, last used etc.


I am familiar with MS built in command line tools to check password age etc on accounts but was wondering if people use any other third party (free ones maybe?) utilities that can output quickly a users password age, (last time it was changed), when the account was last accessed etc in AD.

Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

[THIN] Re: OT: My latest blog posting which I made a point to send to Ballmer and friends via email.

We have zero Vista machines and never will, I tried one, Ultimate Business version, does not play nice with our AD network, come one guys, you both came from the same company, but no, they refused to get along, so bye-bye vista, and sorry, we have one Mac in Marketing, and no more of them either, don’t get me wrong, I like Mac well enough, I own one, but integrating in an AD environment, what a pain. I am testing the waters with Ubuntu and Susi’s latest offerings with cross-over and running MS Office. I think a lot of what Redmond does is great, they just seem to fall short too many times in the OS arena.

 

Thank You

-Doug Rooney
Sonoma Tilemakers
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Windsor Ca, 95492
(707) 837-8177 X11
(707) 837-9472 FAX
it@sonomatilemakers.com

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jan
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:51 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: My latest blog posting which I made a point to send to Ballmer and friends via email.

 

Well said Jim. I have four Vista machines in my company. That's it. I have NO desire for any more.

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms <jkenzig@gmail.com> wrote:

Here is my one sorta off topic post in a long time. JK

I'd love to here comments and discussion. Either here or on my blog. Am I wrong? And remember this isn't a RANT this is an OPINION.

OPINION: It is time for Microsoft to start making nice with competing software vendors if they want to sell Vista. Save your $300 Million!

http://kenzig.blogspot.com/2008/08/opinion-it-is-time-for-microsoft-to.html

This is my Opinion and does not reflect those of any of my employers. I have never been a Microsoft Basher (in fact I am probably one of their biggest champions over the last 25 years) But I am really fed up with the hype and also the infighting between Microsoft and other competing computer companies and this isn't going to sell me Vista. And since my MVP status was taken away I'm not going to hold back anymore. (not that I did when I was an MVP which is probably why they didn't pick me up again in the first place LOL)

NEWSFLASH TO MICROSOFT: Jerry Seinfield isn't going to help you sell more Vista licenses to Enterprises no matter how much you pay him. (and it is $10 million for those who care.) It is very funny to poke fun at other vendors, but I hate to tell you that Apple is spot on with most of it's Mac and PC commercials when it comes to the Enterprise.

I have been trying to roll out 700 Vista machines in our enterprise since last July (2007!) and at every corner I arrive at a new STOP sign that prevents me from doing it. Our organization requires several plugins and pieces of software from many vendors. These vendors deem their software Vista compatible but in reality they are only Vista compatible if the user is local and not on a domain or is an administrator.

And some of these programs, whether you turn off UAC, tell them to always run as administrator, put them in compatibility mode or whatever, still crash hard as soon as the user account is made a mandatory or roaming profile.

Companies like Adobe, Sun, ADP, Altiris, Symantec seem not to really care whether their software is fully compatible with Vista. I've had issues with every one of these companies getting one of their products to work on Microsofts Darling new OS.

Countless hours of my time have been wasted attempting to circumvent Vista's built in "security" just to get simple core applications (like Adobe Reader 9) to work in a domain environment. Sun only certifies the latest versions of Java to work with Vista and ADP whom refuses to update their applications like eTime to run properly with the latest version for example refuse to play. Time keeping is a critical thing here as our employees like to get paid.

There is a wonderful open source IM application that we are going to use called Spark to provide support to our customers. Worked fine for local user accounts but as soon as you put it into a roaming profile, bam, for some reason now you have to be an administrator to run it. Same for Adobe Acrobat 9 and countless other programs.

Every program has had a different solution in trying to get it to run in an enterprise environment on Vista. I really doubt that Microsoft used a domain with mandatory roaming profiles to the user in it's so called Mojave experiment. If they did the users would not be saying how great it was.

Dammit Microsoft! I really want Vista to work and to give it to my users. I really do. I know it isn't your fault that OTHER vendors can't get their software written correctly to adhere to your stringent security requirements but it SHOULD be your responsibility to ENGAGE them and assist them in getting it to work. These are not small companies I am talking about and yes most have competing products to your offerings. But bringing on the Borg attitude is not going to win you any customers and comedy is not going to make it any easier for them to deploy Vista.

Right now the Adobe problem is a project killer for us. Windows XP is looking mighty fine.

MY ADVICE TO MICROSOFT?
Save your $300 million advertising dollars and go out and use it to send a couple of code gurus around to these companies and get them to help get their code to work! You could spend half the money, donate the other half to charity and sell 10 times more product cause it would WORK!


Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

 

[THIN] Re: OT: My latest blog posting which I made a point to send to Ballmer and friends via email.

ditto

if I could only push Mac OSX to thin clients.

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@gmail.com> wrote:

Well, Vista is the main reason I am now a Mac user.

 

Joe

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jan
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:51 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: My latest blog posting which I made a point to send to Ballmer and friends via email.

 

Well said Jim. I have four Vista machines in my company. That's it. I have NO desire for any more.

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms <jkenzig@gmail.com> wrote:

Here is my one sorta off topic post in a long time. JK

I'd love to here comments and discussion. Either here or on my blog. Am I wrong? And remember this isn't a RANT this is an OPINION.

OPINION: It is time for Microsoft to start making nice with competing software vendors if they want to sell Vista. Save your $300 Million!

http://kenzig.blogspot.com/2008/08/opinion-it-is-time-for-microsoft-to.html

This is my Opinion and does not reflect those of any of my employers. I have never been a Microsoft Basher (in fact I am probably one of their biggest champions over the last 25 years) But I am really fed up with the hype and also the infighting between Microsoft and other competing computer companies and this isn't going to sell me Vista. And since my MVP status was taken away I'm not going to hold back anymore. (not that I did when I was an MVP which is probably why they didn't pick me up again in the first place LOL)

NEWSFLASH TO MICROSOFT: Jerry Seinfield isn't going to help you sell more Vista licenses to Enterprises no matter how much you pay him. (and it is $10 million for those who care.) It is very funny to poke fun at other vendors, but I hate to tell you that Apple is spot on with most of it's Mac and PC commercials when it comes to the Enterprise.

I have been trying to roll out 700 Vista machines in our enterprise since last July (2007!) and at every corner I arrive at a new STOP sign that prevents me from doing it. Our organization requires several plugins and pieces of software from many vendors. These vendors deem their software Vista compatible but in reality they are only Vista compatible if the user is local and not on a domain or is an administrator.

And some of these programs, whether you turn off UAC, tell them to always run as administrator, put them in compatibility mode or whatever, still crash hard as soon as the user account is made a mandatory or roaming profile.

Companies like Adobe, Sun, ADP, Altiris, Symantec seem not to really care whether their software is fully compatible with Vista. I've had issues with every one of these companies getting one of their products to work on Microsofts Darling new OS.

Countless hours of my time have been wasted attempting to circumvent Vista's built in "security" just to get simple core applications (like Adobe Reader 9) to work in a domain environment. Sun only certifies the latest versions of Java to work with Vista and ADP whom refuses to update their applications like eTime to run properly with the latest version for example refuse to play. Time keeping is a critical thing here as our employees like to get paid.

There is a wonderful open source IM application that we are going to use called Spark to provide support to our customers. Worked fine for local user accounts but as soon as you put it into a roaming profile, bam, for some reason now you have to be an administrator to run it. Same for Adobe Acrobat 9 and countless other programs.

Every program has had a different solution in trying to get it to run in an enterprise environment on Vista. I really doubt that Microsoft used a domain with mandatory roaming profiles to the user in it's so called Mojave experiment. If they did the users would not be saying how great it was.

Dammit Microsoft! I really want Vista to work and to give it to my users. I really do. I know it isn't your fault that OTHER vendors can't get their software written correctly to adhere to your stringent security requirements but it SHOULD be your responsibility to ENGAGE them and assist them in getting it to work. These are not small companies I am talking about and yes most have competing products to your offerings. But bringing on the Borg attitude is not going to win you any customers and comedy is not going to make it any easier for them to deploy Vista.

Right now the Adobe problem is a project killer for us. Windows XP is looking mighty fine.

MY ADVICE TO MICROSOFT?
Save your $300 million advertising dollars and go out and use it to send a couple of code gurus around to these companies and get them to help get their code to work! You could spend half the money, donate the other half to charity and sell 10 times more product cause it would WORK!


Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

 


[THIN] Re: OT: My latest blog posting which I made a point to send to Ballmer and friends via email.

Well said Jim. I have four Vista machines in my company. That's it. I have NO desire for any more.

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms <jkenzig@gmail.com> wrote:

Here is my one sorta off topic post in a long time. JK

I'd love to here comments and discussion. Either here or on my blog. Am I wrong? And remember this isn't a RANT this is an OPINION.

OPINION: It is time for Microsoft to start making nice with competing software vendors if they want to sell Vista. Save your $300 Million!

http://kenzig.blogspot.com/2008/08/opinion-it-is-time-for-microsoft-to.html

This is my Opinion and does not reflect those of any of my employers. I have never been a Microsoft Basher (in fact I am probably one of their biggest champions over the last 25 years) But I am really fed up with the hype and also the infighting between Microsoft and other competing computer companies and this isn't going to sell me Vista. And since my MVP status was taken away I'm not going to hold back anymore. (not that I did when I was an MVP which is probably why they didn't pick me up again in the first place LOL)

NEWSFLASH TO MICROSOFT: Jerry Seinfield isn't going to help you sell more Vista licenses to Enterprises no matter how much you pay him. (and it is $10 million for those who care.) It is very funny to poke fun at other vendors, but I hate to tell you that Apple is spot on with most of it's Mac and PC commercials when it comes to the Enterprise.

I have been trying to roll out 700 Vista machines in our enterprise since last July (2007!) and at every corner I arrive at a new STOP sign that prevents me from doing it. Our organization requires several plugins and pieces of software from many vendors. These vendors deem their software Vista compatible but in reality they are only Vista compatible if the user is local and not on a domain or is an administrator.

And some of these programs, whether you turn off UAC, tell them to always run as administrator, put them in compatibility mode or whatever, still crash hard as soon as the user account is made a mandatory or roaming profile.

Companies like Adobe, Sun, ADP, Altiris, Symantec seem not to really care whether their software is fully compatible with Vista. I've had issues with every one of these companies getting one of their products to work on Microsofts Darling new OS.

Countless hours of my time have been wasted attempting to circumvent Vista's built in "security" just to get simple core applications (like Adobe Reader 9) to work in a domain environment. Sun only certifies the latest versions of Java to work with Vista and ADP whom refuses to update their applications like eTime to run properly with the latest version for example refuse to play. Time keeping is a critical thing here as our employees like to get paid.

There is a wonderful open source IM application that we are going to use called Spark to provide support to our customers. Worked fine for local user accounts but as soon as you put it into a roaming profile, bam, for some reason now you have to be an administrator to run it. Same for Adobe Acrobat 9 and countless other programs.

Every program has had a different solution in trying to get it to run in an enterprise environment on Vista. I really doubt that Microsoft used a domain with mandatory roaming profiles to the user in it's so called Mojave experiment. If they did the users would not be saying how great it was.

Dammit Microsoft! I really want Vista to work and to give it to my users. I really do. I know it isn't your fault that OTHER vendors can't get their software written correctly to adhere to your stringent security requirements but it SHOULD be your responsibility to ENGAGE them and assist them in getting it to work. These are not small companies I am talking about and yes most have competing products to your offerings. But bringing on the Borg attitude is not going to win you any customers and comedy is not going to make it any easier for them to deploy Vista.

Right now the Adobe problem is a project killer for us. Windows XP is looking mighty fine.

MY ADVICE TO MICROSOFT?
Save your $300 million advertising dollars and go out and use it to send a couple of code gurus around to these companies and get them to help get their code to work! You could spend half the money, donate the other half to charity and sell 10 times more product cause it would WORK!


Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

[THIN] OT: My latest blog posting which I made a point to send to Ballmer and friends via email.

Here is my one sorta off topic post in a long time. JK

I'd love to here comments and discussion. Either here or on my blog. Am I wrong? And remember this isn't a RANT this is an OPINION.

OPINION: It is time for Microsoft to start making nice with competing software vendors if they want to sell Vista. Save your $300 Million!

http://kenzig.blogspot.com/2008/08/opinion-it-is-time-for-microsoft-to.html

This is my Opinion and does not reflect those of any of my employers. I have never been a Microsoft Basher (in fact I am probably one of their biggest champions over the last 25 years) But I am really fed up with the hype and also the infighting between Microsoft and other competing computer companies and this isn't going to sell me Vista. And since my MVP status was taken away I'm not going to hold back anymore. (not that I did when I was an MVP which is probably why they didn't pick me up again in the first place LOL)

NEWSFLASH TO MICROSOFT: Jerry Seinfield isn't going to help you sell more Vista licenses to Enterprises no matter how much you pay him. (and it is $10 million for those who care.) It is very funny to poke fun at other vendors, but I hate to tell you that Apple is spot on with most of it's Mac and PC commercials when it comes to the Enterprise.

I have been trying to roll out 700 Vista machines in our enterprise since last July (2007!) and at every corner I arrive at a new STOP sign that prevents me from doing it. Our organization requires several plugins and pieces of software from many vendors. These vendors deem their software Vista compatible but in reality they are only Vista compatible if the user is local and not on a domain or is an administrator.

And some of these programs, whether you turn off UAC, tell them to always run as administrator, put them in compatibility mode or whatever, still crash hard as soon as the user account is made a mandatory or roaming profile.

Companies like Adobe, Sun, ADP, Altiris, Symantec seem not to really care whether their software is fully compatible with Vista. I've had issues with every one of these companies getting one of their products to work on Microsofts Darling new OS.

Countless hours of my time have been wasted attempting to circumvent Vista's built in "security" just to get simple core applications (like Adobe Reader 9) to work in a domain environment. Sun only certifies the latest versions of Java to work with Vista and ADP whom refuses to update their applications like eTime to run properly with the latest version for example refuse to play. Time keeping is a critical thing here as our employees like to get paid.

There is a wonderful open source IM application that we are going to use called Spark to provide support to our customers. Worked fine for local user accounts but as soon as you put it into a roaming profile, bam, for some reason now you have to be an administrator to run it. Same for Adobe Acrobat 9 and countless other programs.

Every program has had a different solution in trying to get it to run in an enterprise environment on Vista. I really doubt that Microsoft used a domain with mandatory roaming profiles to the user in it's so called Mojave experiment. If they did the users would not be saying how great it was.

Dammit Microsoft! I really want Vista to work and to give it to my users. I really do. I know it isn't your fault that OTHER vendors can't get their software written correctly to adhere to your stringent security requirements but it SHOULD be your responsibility to ENGAGE them and assist them in getting it to work. These are not small companies I am talking about and yes most have competing products to your offerings. But bringing on the Borg attitude is not going to win you any customers and comedy is not going to make it any easier for them to deploy Vista.

Right now the Adobe problem is a project killer for us. Windows XP is looking mighty fine.

MY ADVICE TO MICROSOFT?
Save your $300 million advertising dollars and go out and use it to send a couple of code gurus around to these companies and get them to help get their code to work! You could spend half the money, donate the other half to charity and sell 10 times more product cause it would WORK!


Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

[THIN] Re: Citrix Provision Server 5.0 Released to Web!

UDP is the transport layer and BXP is the protocol.

 

Joe

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Barichello
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 4:19 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix Provision Server 5.0 Released to Web!

 

Really Is that so – I thought it just used UDP….   I do believe multiple protocol options will be coming in the future though.

 

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From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Friday, 22 August 2008 8:17 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix Provision Server 5.0 Released to Web!

 

No, PVS uses a protocol called BXP which is block level protocol like iSCSI except it is approximately 4x faster than iSCSI.   ICA is a remoting protocol and not a streaming protocol.

 

Joe

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Minero, Hector B CIV NSWCDD, K55
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:06 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix Provision Server 5.0 Released to Web!

 

Pardon my ignorance, but does Provisioning Server use ICA to deliver the OS and apps?

My guess is NOT, because from reading the description it says that app. processing takes place at the desktop.

 

We'd like to use diskless PCs and deliver the OS and apps via the network.

 

Our experience with ICA has been that is slow for real-time apps.

 

 

_______________________________
Hector Minero
NSWCDD K55

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:29 PM
To: THIN
Subject: [THIN] Citrix Provision Server 5.0 Released to Web!

Just received the following notification from Citrix
Provisioning Server 5.0 (Project Charles) has officially been released to web (RTW)!

 What does this mean:

ü  Existing PVS customers can download Provisioning Server 5.0 as of today (as a Benefit of Subscription Advantage).

 

ü  All net-new customers will not be able to directly purchase Provisioning Server 5.0 until September 1, 2008.  This is when the new Media Kit SKUs are available for sale.

 

ü  If a new or existing customer purchases Provisioning Server today, they will receive Provisioning Server 4.5 SP1 as part of the original order, but will also have the ability to download Provisioning Server 5.0 via their MyCitrix account.

 


Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

Thursday, August 21, 2008

[THIN] Re: OT - VM sizing for testing

I think the main point is that virtualization does not change resource
requirements. That is often missed in the "irrational exuberance" around
consolidation. Hardware virtualization requires the same exact resources as
the corresponding physical servers.

This starts to change with things like OS virtualization, but in the
hypervisor world you can share hardware, but you still need to make
available the same resources....


Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85266
(602) 432-8649
www.thinclient.net
steveg@thinclient.net

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From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf
Of Brian Ehlert
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:59 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT - VM sizing for testing

Evan and Mike:

Thank you. Exactly the type of commentary I was looking for.

You at least help me establish my 'normal' - then I can find my
extreme (the large) and most likely my VDI (the purpously small).

All of your comments are helping me validate my thinking.

Thanks for the contributions!
(Joe and Steve too)
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[THIN] Re: OT - VM sizing for testing

Evan and Mike:

Thank you. Exactly the type of commentary I was looking for.

You at least help me establish my 'normal' - then I can find my
extreme (the large) and most likely my VDI (the purpously small).

All of your comments are helping me validate my thinking.

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[THIN] Re: Ctx_StreamingSvc

Resetting the password worked. Thanks,

 


From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Tom Monahan
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:48 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Ctx_StreamingSvc

 

Isn't 1069 a logon failure?  I assume you mean the "Citrix Streaming Service" is not starting. Maybe the password to this ctx_streamingSvc account was changed. Try resetting this password and setting the new password in the services.msc console for the Citrix Streaming Service.

 

If that fails and to see/confirm if its a permissions error you can try set the service to Local System and see if it starts from that.

 

Tom

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 3:09 PM, msemon@ont.com <msemon@ont.com> wrote:

Ctx_StreamingSvc is not starting on my Xenapp server. Getting a 1069 error
when trying to start the service. It appears to have the proper permissions
in the registry and program files


• Registry:
Full Control: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\CITRIX\RADE
Full Control: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\CITRIX \RadeCache

• Files:
Read and Execute: <systemroot>\Program Files\Citrix\Radecache
Read and Execute: <systemroot>\Program Files\Citrix\Streaming Client
Read and Execute: <systemroot>\Program Files\Citrix\Deploy
Full Control: <systemroot>\Program Files\Citrix\RadeCache
Full Control: <systemroot>\Windows\Fonts
Full Control: <systemroot>\Windows\Registration

• File share:
Read: File share where the profile package is located.

Seems to me I remember there was a problem with this account
.\Ctx_StreamingSvc.
Can't remember what the fix for this was. Anybody seen this?

Mike



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[THIN] Re: OT - VM sizing for testing

I think your question is far to open ended. It depends on the OS and
what applications are running on the OS, and where the applications are
installed. Where is data being kept? In the VM, on a NAS/SAN,etc.? I
have VMware servers on Win 2000 Server Standard with 10 gigs. Those
VM's are never intended to be upgraded to Windows 2003 or higher, so 10
gigs leaves me with about 4.5-5 gigs free. All they do is run IIS 5.0.
10 gigs doesn't get you very far with Windows 2003 Standard on just a
base install alone, and if you want to in-place upgrade to 2008, forget
about it. I install heavy apps on a separate VMDK, so the boot disk
doesn't need to be overly large. Things like logging can be redirected
to additional disks. That means a boot partition disk can stay small,
but a "data/app" partition disk can be big.

IMO, One of the beautiful things about VM's is the disks can be expanded
if they are simple partitions. If it's a non-boot disk, it's really
easy. Shut down the VM, expand it with vmkfstools (you can even do it
in VI Client under ESX 3.5.x) and then boot the VM and run expand on it.
On a boot disk, you need to attach the disk to a secondary VM to expand
it, because you can't expand a boot volume once booted from it. I've
done this dozens of times without issue. There's always the risk of
losing the disk/partition however.

FWIW, My standard VM boot partition for Windows 2003 Standard Is
30-40gigs. Doesn't matter what I'm actually running. That yields me
plenty of free space to keep hotfix/server pack uninstalls as well as
future room for upgrades to Windows 2008. All my Server VM's have at
least one secondary partition as a second virtual disk file. All my XP
client VM's are usually 15gigs, but nothing really runs on them except
the OS and office apps. All data is elsewhere on the network.

PS - 2 of my most active VM's run separate Windows 2003 SBS environments
on ESX 3.5. Two 40gig boot disks, and two 120 gig data disks. No
performance issues related to I/O.

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [THIN] Re: OT - VM sizing for testing

Please then Joe, (you are thinking exactly as I was).

What is your take on a small, medium, or large virtual disk?
(consider theat they must be large enough to be considered usable)

I will even entertain two classes: Servers, and VDI targets (I am
sure you all understand what I mean)


On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:42 PM, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@gmail.com> wrote:
> And that is what I am trying to say. You can easily get away with a
10 gig
> drive for Windows XP but it will be way too small for Vista. Then you
have
> to consider what's going to be installed? Office? Applications like
the
> Adobe CS3 suite or Visual Suites can chew up a lot of disk space
really
> fast.
>
> Joe
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> Thanks for the clarification Joe.
>
> However, I am specifically considering the size of the virtual hard
> disk in this exercise.
>
> And a few different hosting platforms.
>
> I am not focusing on the performance of the VM itself - a bit
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[THIN] Re: OT - VM sizing for testing

And that is what I am trying to say. You can easily get away with a 10 gig
drive for Windows XP but it will be way too small for Vista. Then you have
to consider what's going to be installed? Office? Applications like the
Adobe CS3 suite or Visual Suites can chew up a lot of disk space really
fast.

Joe

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Subject: [THIN] Re: OT - VM sizing for testing

Thanks for the clarification Joe.

However, I am specifically considering the size of the virtual hard
disk in this exercise.

And a few different hosting platforms.

I am not focusing on the performance of the VM itself - a bit different
angle.

(You will all be putting the pieces together soon enough ;-) )

However, if you care to share your experience - I can always add
configurations to my matrix for other uses.
I am always trying to find legitimate and 'real world' configuration
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[THIN] Re: OT - VM sizing for testing

Thanks for the clarification Joe.

However, I am specifically considering the size of the virtual hard
disk in this exercise.

And a few different hosting platforms.

I am not focusing on the performance of the VM itself - a bit different angle.

(You will all be putting the pieces together soon enough ;-) )

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[THIN] Re: OT - VM sizing for testing

Small= 5GB
Med = 15G
Large= 25+ GB


Steve Greenberg
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Subject: [THIN] OT - VM sizing for testing

I have an off-topic question for the wisdom of the list.

I have been charged with performance testing some actions regarding
virtual machines.

I was wondering if those of you who are consulting or are willing to
speak up, could give me your impressions on.

What would you consider a 'small', 'medium', and 'large' sized virtual disk?


I know that many enterprises are virtualizing for many reasons, and my
history tought me to make a virtual disk as small as possible. But
practice may be, and may have changed. So I was curious what your
experiences have been and what the losw to high range might be on the
size of a virtual disk.

Thanks all in advance!
-BrianEh
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[THIN] Re: Looking for 4.5 utility to manage servers / apps

i have and it is awesome!
Scott

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Claus, Brian S. <BClaus@reedsmith.com> wrote:
 
Thanks Greg - I'll check that out.
Any experience with this one?
 
 
--Brian
 
 


From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Greg Reese
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:16 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Looking for 4.5 utility to manage servers / apps

AppEdit is nice.  A little quirky sometime but it will let you add apps to servers instead of servers to apps which has been my main complaint wit the CMC for years now.

http://www.brianmadden.com/Forum/Topic/42511

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Claus, Brian S. <BClaus@reedsmith.com> wrote:

Looking for a utility that will enable us to manage apps & servers "en masse" in our 4.5 farm.  For instance – I'd like to be able to add a published app (or group of published apps) to multiple servers @ once.  Any recommendations for 3rd party utils or scripts from the Citrix SDK?

 

Thanks!

 

Brian S. Claus A+, Network+, MCSE
Citrix Engineer
Reed Smith LLP
435 Sixth Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15219
bclaus@reedsmith.com

 

 
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[THIN] Re: Looking for 4.5 utility to manage servers / apps

 
Thanks Greg - I'll check that out.
Any experience with this one?
 
 
--Brian
 
 


From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Greg Reese
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:16 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Looking for 4.5 utility to manage servers / apps

AppEdit is nice.  A little quirky sometime but it will let you add apps to servers instead of servers to apps which has been my main complaint wit the CMC for years now.

http://www.brianmadden.com/Forum/Topic/42511

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Claus, Brian S. <BClaus@reedsmith.com> wrote:

Looking for a utility that will enable us to manage apps & servers "en masse" in our 4.5 farm.  For instance – I'd like to be able to add a published app (or group of published apps) to multiple servers @ once.  Any recommendations for 3rd party utils or scripts from the Citrix SDK?

 

Thanks!

 

Brian S. Claus A+, Network+, MCSE
Citrix Engineer
Reed Smith LLP
435 Sixth Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15219
bclaus@reedsmith.com

 

 
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[THIN] Re: Looking for 4.5 utility to manage servers / apps

AppEdit is nice.  A little quirky sometime but it will let you add apps to servers instead of servers to apps which has been my main complaint wit the CMC for years now.

http://www.brianmadden.com/Forum/Topic/42511

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Claus, Brian S. <BClaus@reedsmith.com> wrote:

Looking for a utility that will enable us to manage apps & servers "en masse" in our 4.5 farm.  For instance – I'd like to be able to add a published app (or group of published apps) to multiple servers @ once.  Any recommendations for 3rd party utils or scripts from the Citrix SDK?

 

Thanks!

 

Brian S. Claus A+, Network+, MCSE
Citrix Engineer
Reed Smith LLP
435 Sixth Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15219
bclaus@reedsmith.com

 

 
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[THIN] Looking for 4.5 utility to manage servers / apps

Looking for a utility that will enable us to manage apps & servers “en masse” in our 4.5 farm.  For instance – I’d like to be able to add a published app (or group of published apps) to multiple servers @ once.  Any recommendations for 3rd party utils or scripts from the Citrix SDK?

 

Thanks!

 

Brian S. Claus A+, Network+, MCSE
Citrix Engineer
Reed Smith LLP
435 Sixth Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15219
bclaus@reedsmith.com

 

 
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[THIN] Re: Published Outlook 2007 is ugly

I successfully installed that one, rebooted, opened a pub desktop, enabled cleartype, but the display is still nasty.  Hopefully, you will have better results.
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Published Outlook 2007 is ugly

it's hotfix PSE450R02W2K3037 - but I've downloaded it twice and when I run it I get a windows installer error message
 
"the patch package could not be opened. verifty theat the patch package exists and that you can acces it, or contact the application vendor to verify that it is a valid windows installer patch package."
 
Anyone able to successfully install this one?

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 6:42 AM, JAlexander <jalexander@getoffmyplanet.us> wrote:
I thought maybe enabling ClearType would help but I publish apps, not a full desktop.  If you publish a desktop, there's a Citrix hotfix to enable Cleartype support:  http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX113295.  The second hotfix (CTX117240) tells me that I'm not authorized to even view it so you must have to have a support contract or something. 
 
I'll publish a desktop for myself and enable Cleartype to see what happens. 
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Reese
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:29 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Published Outlook 2007 is ugly

I can't even get them to agree it's ok to run XP Sp3.  Office 2007 isn't even on the radar.  it's a shame they didn't offer a "classic" view or something.  or maybe they did and I just haven't found it yet.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 1:19 PM, JAlexander <jalexander@getoffmyplanet.us> wrote:
This should be fun...LOL  I've been testing on a local PC and haven't had any issues with it so far.  My users have only had it for 2 days so I'm sure they'll find all the bugs for me.  ;) Unfortunately, the move to 2007 was decreed by our CIO and I had to comply. Thankfully, the upgrade to 2007 on the Citrix server was fairly painless.  The display in all the office apps is pretty fuzzy but it's most prominent in Outlook.
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Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:52 AM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Published Outlook 2007 is ugly

I don't know I am still very inclined to stick with Outlook 2003.  I have been using Outlook 2007 locally on my Vista Business PC since it's release and testing and every time I get an update from MS (once a month) it somehow breaks Outlook 2007 and I have to run the repair utility from the CD.  Very frustrating. 
Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com


On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:51 AM, JAlexander <jalexander@getoffmyplanet.us> wrote:
I was kind of hoping good would overcome since I upgraded to 2007 this weekend and the display is ugly here as well.  ;)  Any suggestions would be welcome.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:36 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Published Outlook 2007 is ugly

the forces of evil triumphed.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:
quitter


On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
yep. Unfortunately it's now a dead issue as I've rolled back to 2003 (which works fine).


On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 1:09 AM, Greg Reese <gareese@gmail.com> wrote:
I think he means the application itself is 16 color.


On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 3:40 AM, Andy Friar <Andy.Friar@novus.co.uk> wrote:
WI 4.6 and the latest AMC, repulish app and you'll get better colours on the icon through PNagent and WI / CSG.

Andy


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From: thin-bounce@freelists.org on behalf of Steve Snyder
Sent: Sun 17/08/2008 00:06
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Published Outlook 2007 is ugly


Publishing office 2007 on w2k3 r2 w/sp2, citrix name-of-the-day 4.5, and Outlook is just ugly. As in 16-color ugly. All of the other apps, including office, look fine, and pictures embedded within an e-mail message display fine in Outlook, it's just Outlook itself is hideous.

Ideas?