Saturday, January 24, 2009

[THIN] Fwd: Citrix resurrects King George as hypervisor * The Register

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[THIN] Re: have a process still running after seamless app closes

Check out a little freeware app called TSKaapop from Ctrl-Alt-Del IT Consultancy, not to be confused
with TSKaapow also available from Ctrl-Alt-Del IT Consultancy. Download it from http://www.ctrl-alt-
del.com.au/CAD_TSUtils.htm

TSKaapop is a command-line utility to run multiple applications from one
command with the further ability to close those applications simultaneously
with one action.
This utility was written to allow a single call to launch multiple applications
in their own process, ensuring that a user has access to only the applications
they require in a single seamless or desktop session.
TSKaapop with its parameters can exist as a shortcut on the desktop, can be run
in a script, or published as a single application that runs multiple
applications, each with its own process. TSKaapop will work as a Seamless
Published application in a Citrix environment. If multiple applications are
launched via TSKaapop in a Seamless environment, the session will not close
until each application has been closed or the first application called in the
command line of TSKaapop is closed. If for example, notepad.exe is launched via
TSKaapop as the first parameter, and calc.exe and excel.exe are launched as the
second and third parameters respectively, then all three applications will
launch, each as a separate process. If notepad.exe is then closed by the user,
then calc.exe and excel.exe will also terminate. If this command was presented
as a published application in Citrix or directly called from a Terminal
Services Client, then the session will also close. All applications called by
TSKaapop can be closed individually, excluding the first launched which, as
stated, will close any application called by TSKaapop.

Usage:
TSKaapop [[PATH][Application] [PATH][Application] ...] [/?]

PATH - Path to the Application
Application - Application Executable
/? - Show this help file

TSKaapop without parameters will display this help file.

NOTE: If a PATH or Application does not exist, TSKaapop will
terminate at that point. Any applications launched prior will
still be operational.

E.G. TSKaapop "c:\Program Files\Office11\EXCEL.EXE" c:\windows\system32\notepad.exe
This command will launch MS Excel and notepad one after the other.

E.G. TSKaapop "c:\Program Files\Office11\EXCEL.EXE" "c:\windows\system32\notepad.exe
h:\MyTextfile.txt"
This command will launch MS Excel and h:\MyTextfile.txt in notepad
one after the other.

This utility is FREEWARE and was written by Warren Simondson of
Ctrl-Alt-Del IT Consultancy, Australia. www.ctrl-alt-del.com.au

Although written for Terminal Server and Citrix environments, this application
will function on non-TS/Citrix workstations and servers.
This application has been tested on the following platforms:

Windows 2008 Server
Windows 2003 Server SP1
Windows 2003 Server SP1 w/ Citrix PS 4.0/ XA 5.0
Windows 2003 Server SP1 (Terminal Server Application Mode)
Windows 2000 Server SP4
Windows 2000 Server SP4 w/ Citrix MF XP
Windows 2000 Server SP4 (Terminal Server Application Mode)
Windows 2000 Server SP4 w/ Citrix MF 1.8
Windows XP Professional (domain member)
Windows Vista (domain member)

The freeware version is offered AS IS. Ctrl-Alt-Del IT Consultancy has made
every effort possible to ensure that TSKaapop is free of any bugs or errors,
however in no way is TSKaapop to be considered error or bug free.
You assume all responsibility for any damages or lost data that may result
from any errors or bugs in TSKaapop.

IN NO EVENT WILL CTRL-ALT-DEL IT CONSULTANCY BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY GENERAL,
SPECIAL, INDIRECT, CONSEQUENTIAL, INCIDENTAL OR OTHER DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF
THIS PRODUCT.

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Quoting TSguy92 Lan <tsguy92@gmail.com>:

> Afternoon listies,
>
> We have an app run in seamless mode, which is used as a starter point
> to
> ensure that a number of other applications can be started within the
> same
> memory space (same server).
>
> One of the newer applications being launched by this starter point,
> has a
> secondary EXE process spawned that drops directly down to the system
> tray.
>
> All is well and good, until the main starter application is closed.
> The
> spawned EXE's for the system tray app won't close without an end
> user
> selecting to exit them specifically.
>
> Have attempted the reg mods defined in -
> http://support.citrix.com/article/ctx891671, but that hasn't done it
> for us
> so far.
>
> I was recall some kind of third party app, "launchit"
> "launchthis"...or
> something similar which can watch spawned processes and close them
> out after
> the initially launched app closes.
>
> Not finding it in my searches, curious if anyone else is aware of a
> utility
> which will help us close out this little bugger of an exe.
>
> thanks,
>
> Lan
>

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[THIN] Citrix Synergy (formerly iForum ) Session Content Now Available

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Friday, January 23, 2009

[THIN] Re: WI 5 - add ica clients

Just copy the Clients directory to the Clients directory in the corresponding C:\Program Files\ Directory…  You’ll have to dig a little but you’ll find it.

 

Joe

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Steve Snyder
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 7:35 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] WI 5 - add ica clients

 

Suppose you setup a WI5 server and didn't add the clients at the setup time. And then someone wants you to add them. Besides uninstalling and reinstalling WI what do I do?

[THIN] Re: WI 5 - add ica clients

Get a Citrix app receiver :^)

Seriously. Wait until march and get one.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 23, 2009, at 8:35 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:

> Suppose you setup a WI5 server and didn't add the clients at the
> setup time. And then someone wants you to add them. Besides
> uninstalling and reinstalling WI what do I do?
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[THIN] WI 5 - add ica clients

Suppose you setup a WI5 server and didn't add the clients at the setup time. And then someone wants you to add them. Besides uninstalling and reinstalling WI what do I do?

[THIN] Re: Virtual Citrix servers

It really depends on resource utilization. My rule of thumb is if CPU is over 35%, memory over 50% and context switching is over 40k on a 4 proc (2 dual cores or 2 quad core or 4 single core processors) server with 8 gb of ram on 32 bit OS virtualizing wouldn't be a good idea

This also depends on the goal you have for virtualiZing. If you need to get rid of physical hardware and don't mind supporting more VM instance(and the os costs) then it may be for you. 

We moved all infrasture servers (data coll, wi, data stores, XML brokers) to vm and that worked out reaally well. We also moved dev and qa/uat Citrix envirn to VM as well (low resource and user counts)  

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 23, 2009, at 15:51, "Minero, Hector B CIV NSWCDD, K55" <hector.minero@navy.mil> wrote:

We're mainly interested in reducing Server footprint.  However, we're also interested in disaster recovery capabilities (Vmotion, etc).
It'd also be great to build test servers on Virtual servers for testing new applications.
On this particular farm, I have 7 PS 4.5 servers with about 30 users each.
 

_______________________________
Hector Minero
NSWCDD K55

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 3:19 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Virtual Citrix servers

It depends.  What kind of workloads are the Citrix server performing?  What are your goals for moving to a virtual environment (what do you hope to achieve?)

 

Joe

 

Most, if not all, of our new consulting projects all run on XenServer or VMware.

 

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Minero, Hector B CIV NSWCDD, K55
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 12:48 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Virtual Citrix servers

 

 

Hi all,
My boss would like to explore the idea of converting all our Citrix PS 4.5 (Windows 2003) servers to Virtual Servers (VMWare).

Now, I know VMWare is great, but I'm a little concerned about moving all the Citrix servers to VMWare.
I was wondering if anyone out there is already doing this.

I prefer the idea of moving some Citrix servers to VMWare, but not all.

Does anyone have see any problems with this besides the obvious hardware failures?

_______________________________
Hector Minero
NSWCDD K55

[THIN] Re: Anyone know if their is a GPO or registry key for "Turn off all unecessary animations"

Thanks Joe
Can you write him back and ask him if it can be done via the registry somehow!
Thanks,
Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com


On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@gmail.com> wrote:

Jim,

 

Here is the response I got back from Microsoft:

 

"It would be great if you could send this back.

 

While our team looked at this possibly in Windows Vista, it was decided to not incorporate group policy settings for two reasons

1.       We left it out so that network administrators would not be able to turn off EoA settings by group policy.  We did not want administrators to be able to turn off features that allow users to interact with their computer.

2.       We also looked at this from a disclosure perspective.  Having to tell your network admin "please allow foo setting" forces the person with an accessibility issue to self-disclose, and the person might not want to do that.

 

That said, as a fellow network admin of, I see value to the scenario Jim described.  I will take the feedback, but I do not think we'll get it into Windows 7, since it would require planning on specific options and how to handle them.  We need to approach those problems during the planning phase. "

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms


Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 10:10 AM
To: THIN; windows2000@freelists.org; vista@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Anyone know if their is a GPO or registry key for "Turn off all unecessary animations"

 

Trying to track down the registry setting in Vista and Server 2008 that is under Ease of Access Center / Make it easier to focus on tasks / scroll to bottom and under Adjust Time Limits and flashing Visuals section we want the box to be checked to "Turn off all unnecessary animations (when possible)"  This should be available as a GPO as it is definitely necessary to turn off on the server for Terminal Services connections.



Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com


[THIN] Re: Anyone know if their is a GPO or registry key for "Turn off all unecessary animations"

Jim,

 

Here is the response I got back from Microsoft:

 

“It would be great if you could send this back.

 

While our team looked at this possibly in Windows Vista, it was decided to not incorporate group policy settings for two reasons

1.       We left it out so that network administrators would not be able to turn off EoA settings by group policy.  We did not want administrators to be able to turn off features that allow users to interact with their computer.

2.       We also looked at this from a disclosure perspective.  Having to tell your network admin "please allow foo setting" forces the person with an accessibility issue to self-disclose, and the person might not want to do that.

 

That said, as a fellow network admin of, I see value to the scenario Jim described.  I will take the feedback, but I do not think we’ll get it into Windows 7, since it would require planning on specific options and how to handle them.  We need to approach those problems during the planning phase. “

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 10:10 AM
To: THIN; windows2000@freelists.org; vista@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Anyone know if their is a GPO or registry key for "Turn off all unecessary animations"

 

Trying to track down the registry setting in Vista and Server 2008 that is under Ease of Access Center / Make it easier to focus on tasks / scroll to bottom and under Adjust Time Limits and flashing Visuals section we want the box to be checked to "Turn off all unnecessary animations (when possible)"  This should be available as a GPO as it is definitely necessary to turn off on the server for Terminal Services connections.

Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com

[THIN] Re: Virtual Citrix servers

We're mainly interested in reducing Server footprint.  However, we're also interested in disaster recovery capabilities (Vmotion, etc).
It'd also be great to build test servers on Virtual servers for testing new applications.
On this particular farm, I have 7 PS 4.5 servers with about 30 users each.
 

_______________________________
Hector Minero
NSWCDD K55

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 3:19 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Virtual Citrix servers

It depends.  What kind of workloads are the Citrix server performing?  What are your goals for moving to a virtual environment (what do you hope to achieve?)

 

Joe

 

Most, if not all, of our new consulting projects all run on XenServer or VMware.

 

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Minero, Hector B CIV NSWCDD, K55
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 12:48 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Virtual Citrix servers

 

 

Hi all,
My boss would like to explore the idea of converting all our Citrix PS 4.5 (Windows 2003) servers to Virtual Servers (VMWare).

Now, I know VMWare is great, but I'm a little concerned about moving all the Citrix servers to VMWare.
I was wondering if anyone out there is already doing this.

I prefer the idea of moving some Citrix servers to VMWare, but not all.

Does anyone have see any problems with this besides the obvious hardware failures?

_______________________________
Hector Minero
NSWCDD K55

[THIN] Re: Virtual Citrix servers

We run on all VMWare, however, Joe is right - depends on what you are doing with it.
 
Our first goal was to assist in DR, which we succeeded in doing, and a secondary goal was ease of management, which in my mind was an even bigger success.  But we had an app mix that worked OK on the early ESX capable hardware.  The newer CPUs & systems are much better and our environment has benefited tremendously...
 
- Bob

[THIN] Re: Virtual Citrix servers

It depends.  What kind of workloads are the Citrix server performing?  What are your goals for moving to a virtual environment (what do you hope to achieve?)

 

Joe

 

Most, if not all, of our new consulting projects all run on XenServer or VMware.

 

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Minero, Hector B CIV NSWCDD, K55
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 12:48 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Virtual Citrix servers

 

 

Hi all,
My boss would like to explore the idea of converting all our Citrix PS 4.5 (Windows 2003) servers to Virtual Servers (VMWare).

Now, I know VMWare is great, but I'm a little concerned about moving all the Citrix servers to VMWare.
I was wondering if anyone out there is already doing this.

I prefer the idea of moving some Citrix servers to VMWare, but not all.

Does anyone have see any problems with this besides the obvious hardware failures?

_______________________________
Hector Minero
NSWCDD K55

[THIN] Virtual Citrix servers


Hi all,
My boss would like to explore the idea of converting all our Citrix PS 4.5 (Windows 2003) servers to Virtual Servers (VMWare).

Now, I know VMWare is great, but I'm a little concerned about moving all the Citrix servers to VMWare.
I was wondering if anyone out there is already doing this.

I prefer the idea of moving some Citrix servers to VMWare, but not all.

Does anyone have see any problems with this besides the obvious hardware failures?

_______________________________
Hector Minero
NSWCDD K55

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[THIN] Re: have a process still running after seamless app closes

Aha…I see now J

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of christopher.walter@cgi.com
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 12:25 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: have a process still running after seamless app closes

 

No loop.  Qprocess runs once.  The batch file waits at the command start /wait “application”.  Once that application is closed it will continue on in the batch file to kill the processes.  Trust me, we are doing this for an application for over 1000 users, it works.

 

Chris

 


From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Saunders
Sent: January 23, 2009 10:03 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: have a process still running after seamless app closes

 

Hmmm…am I missing something here? Of course it has to loop. The qprocess | find /i “process” must continually run to test to see if the first app is running or not. How else will it know to take action using TSKILL, or whatever else you use to kill the other two processes?

 

I’m not being rude or having a go at you, I’m just looking at this differently.

 

Cheers,

Jeremy.

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of christopher.walter@cgi.com
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 11:48 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: have a process still running after seamless app closes

 

Whatever works.  I wouldn’t say it hammers resources, there is no loop in the batch file and it just sits in the background minimized if you wish.  Uses about 2 MB of memory that’s all.   

 

Chris

 


From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Saunders
Sent: January 22, 2009 11:06 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: have a process still running after seamless app closes

 

Hi Lan,

 

I think you are far better off using WMI to monitor for the closure of the first app, so that it will then terminate the second, etc.

 

A similar example can be found here:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/resources/qanda/jul05/hey0701.mspx

 

Obviously this script would need some rework to achieve what you are looking for, but you would get it to launch the main app, and then it just sits in the background waiting for the app to terminate, and then terminates the other processes. Nice and tidy. The nice thing about using this method is that it doesn’t hammer the system resources, whereas the method offered below (sorry Chris) may well do that.

 

I have used this method before, but can’t find my exact script L

 

Cheers,

Jeremy.

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of christopher.walter@cgi.com
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 9:36 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: have a process still running after seamless app closes

 

You could run it in a batch file so your initial app runs start /wait “your front application”

 

Your next line could then be qprocess | find /i “process” to check for a running process.  If it doesn’t find the process then run TSKILL on the process that runs the application in the system tray and any others you want killed.

 

We have had to do the same thing here with an application that runs in the System tray. 

 

Chris

 

 


From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of TSguy92 Lan
Sent: January 22, 2009 1:52 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: have a process still running after seamless app closes

 

Joe,

Thanks for the response on this, unfortunately neither these registry adjustments on the server (+reboot), nor publishing the app with launchit seems able to kill the additional exes which launch with the app when the core app is closed.

I have simplified the publishing to just the base application exe which launches 2 additional exe's when starting. After the core app is closed, these two exe's continue to run in the session.

If anyone has other suggestions for directions on this I'd appreciate it, as is it's looking like we may just have to bite the bullet and attempt to train the user's to close out the systray EXE during log offs . . ./sigh

Thanks,

Lan

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

 

There is a Microsoft version of this key as well that has to be set…  Here is an example of both:

 

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

 

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Citrix\wfshell\TWI]

"LogoffCheckSysModules"="ReconnAct!.exe"

 

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Terminal Server\SysProcs]

"ReconnAct!.exe"=dword:00000000

 

Joe

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of TSguy92 Lan
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:31 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] have a process still running after seamless app closes

 

Afternoon listies,

We have an app run in seamless mode, which is used as a starter point to ensure that a number of other applications can be started within the same memory space (same server).

One of the newer applications being launched by this starter point, has a secondary EXE process spawned that drops directly down to the system tray.

All is well and good, until the main starter application is closed. The spawned EXE's for the system tray app won't close without an end user selecting to exit them specifically.

Have attempted the reg mods defined in - http://support.citrix.com/article/ctx891671, but that hasn't done it for us so far.

I was recall some kind of third party app, "launchit" "launchthis"...or something similar which can watch spawned processes and close them out after the initially launched app closes.

Not finding it in my searches, curious if anyone else is aware of a utility which will help us close out this little bugger of an exe.

thanks,

Lan

 


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[THIN] Re: have a process still running after seamless app closes

No loop.  Qprocess runs once.  The batch file waits at the command start /wait “application”.  Once that application is closed it will continue on in the batch file to kill the processes.  Trust me, we are doing this for an application for over 1000 users, it works.

 

Chris

 


From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Saunders
Sent: January 23, 2009 10:03 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: have a process still running after seamless app closes

 

Hmmm…am I missing something here? Of course it has to loop. The qprocess | find /i “process” must continually run to test to see if the first app is running or not. How else will it know to take action using TSKILL, or whatever else you use to kill the other two processes?

 

I’m not being rude or having a go at you, I’m just looking at this differently.

 

Cheers,

Jeremy.

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of christopher.walter@cgi.com
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 11:48 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: have a process still running after seamless app closes

 

Whatever works.  I wouldn’t say it hammers resources, there is no loop in the batch file and it just sits in the background minimized if you wish.  Uses about 2 MB of memory that’s all.   

 

Chris

 


From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Saunders
Sent: January 22, 2009 11:06 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: have a process still running after seamless app closes

 

Hi Lan,

 

I think you are far better off using WMI to monitor for the closure of the first app, so that it will then terminate the second, etc.

 

A similar example can be found here:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/resources/qanda/jul05/hey0701.mspx

 

Obviously this script would need some rework to achieve what you are looking for, but you would get it to launch the main app, and then it just sits in the background waiting for the app to terminate, and then terminates the other processes. Nice and tidy. The nice thing about using this method is that it doesn’t hammer the system resources, whereas the method offered below (sorry Chris) may well do that.

 

I have used this method before, but can’t find my exact script L

 

Cheers,

Jeremy.

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of christopher.walter@cgi.com
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 9:36 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: have a process still running after seamless app closes

 

You could run it in a batch file so your initial app runs start /wait “your front application”

 

Your next line could then be qprocess | find /i “process” to check for a running process.  If it doesn’t find the process then run TSKILL on the process that runs the application in the system tray and any others you want killed.

 

We have had to do the same thing here with an application that runs in the System tray. 

 

Chris

 

 


From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of TSguy92 Lan
Sent: January 22, 2009 1:52 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: have a process still running after seamless app closes

 

Joe,

Thanks for the response on this, unfortunately neither these registry adjustments on the server (+reboot), nor publishing the app with launchit seems able to kill the additional exes which launch with the app when the core app is closed.

I have simplified the publishing to just the base application exe which launches 2 additional exe's when starting. After the core app is closed, these two exe's continue to run in the session.

If anyone has other suggestions for directions on this I'd appreciate it, as is it's looking like we may just have to bite the bullet and attempt to train the user's to close out the systray EXE during log offs . . ./sigh

Thanks,

Lan

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

 

There is a Microsoft version of this key as well that has to be set…  Here is an example of both:

 

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

 

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Citrix\wfshell\TWI]

"LogoffCheckSysModules"="ReconnAct!.exe"

 

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Terminal Server\SysProcs]

"ReconnAct!.exe"=dword:00000000

 

Joe

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of TSguy92 Lan
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:31 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] have a process still running after seamless app closes

 

Afternoon listies,

We have an app run in seamless mode, which is used as a starter point to ensure that a number of other applications can be started within the same memory space (same server).

One of the newer applications being launched by this starter point, has a secondary EXE process spawned that drops directly down to the system tray.

All is well and good, until the main starter application is closed. The spawned EXE's for the system tray app won't close without an end user selecting to exit them specifically.

Have attempted the reg mods defined in - http://support.citrix.com/article/ctx891671, but that hasn't done it for us so far.

I was recall some kind of third party app, "launchit" "launchthis"...or something similar which can watch spawned processes and close them out after the initially launched app closes.

Not finding it in my searches, curious if anyone else is aware of a utility which will help us close out this little bugger of an exe.

thanks,

Lan

 


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[THIN] Re: somewhat OT

That is great.   I may need to print and hang it around my cube

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Robert K Coffman Jr. -Info From Data Corp. <bcoffman@infofromdata.com> wrote:
>I haveit posted on the wall outside my cubical. LOL EG's owner had his
graphics guys do it up for me when they were running the campaign.

I may use this as the sole content of my response to certain helpdesk
inquiries!

- Bob

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[THIN] Re: have a process still running after seamless app closes

Hmmm…am I missing something here? Of course it has to loop. The qprocess | find /i “process” must continually run to test to see if the first app is running or not. How else will it know to take action using TSKILL, or whatever else you use to kill the other two processes?

 

I’m not being rude or having a go at you, I’m just looking at this differently.

 

Cheers,

Jeremy.

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of christopher.walter@cgi.com
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 11:48 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: have a process still running after seamless app closes

 

Whatever works.  I wouldn’t say it hammers resources, there is no loop in the batch file and it just sits in the background minimized if you wish.  Uses about 2 MB of memory that’s all.   

 

Chris

 


From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Saunders
Sent: January 22, 2009 11:06 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: have a process still running after seamless app closes

 

Hi Lan,

 

I think you are far better off using WMI to monitor for the closure of the first app, so that it will then terminate the second, etc.

 

A similar example can be found here:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/resources/qanda/jul05/hey0701.mspx

 

Obviously this script would need some rework to achieve what you are looking for, but you would get it to launch the main app, and then it just sits in the background waiting for the app to terminate, and then terminates the other processes. Nice and tidy. The nice thing about using this method is that it doesn’t hammer the system resources, whereas the method offered below (sorry Chris) may well do that.

 

I have used this method before, but can’t find my exact script L

 

Cheers,

Jeremy.

 

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of christopher.walter@cgi.com
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 9:36 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: have a process still running after seamless app closes

 

You could run it in a batch file so your initial app runs start /wait “your front application”

 

Your next line could then be qprocess | find /i “process” to check for a running process.  If it doesn’t find the process then run TSKILL on the process that runs the application in the system tray and any others you want killed.

 

We have had to do the same thing here with an application that runs in the System tray. 

 

Chris

 

 


From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of TSguy92 Lan
Sent: January 22, 2009 1:52 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: have a process still running after seamless app closes

 

Joe,

Thanks for the response on this, unfortunately neither these registry adjustments on the server (+reboot), nor publishing the app with launchit seems able to kill the additional exes which launch with the app when the core app is closed.

I have simplified the publishing to just the base application exe which launches 2 additional exe's when starting. After the core app is closed, these two exe's continue to run in the session.

If anyone has other suggestions for directions on this I'd appreciate it, as is it's looking like we may just have to bite the bullet and attempt to train the user's to close out the systray EXE during log offs . . ./sigh

Thanks,

Lan

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

 

There is a Microsoft version of this key as well that has to be set…  Here is an example of both:

 

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

 

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Citrix\wfshell\TWI]

"LogoffCheckSysModules"="ReconnAct!.exe"

 

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Terminal Server\SysProcs]

"ReconnAct!.exe"=dword:00000000

 

Joe

From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of TSguy92 Lan
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:31 PM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] have a process still running after seamless app closes

 

Afternoon listies,

We have an app run in seamless mode, which is used as a starter point to ensure that a number of other applications can be started within the same memory space (same server).

One of the newer applications being launched by this starter point, has a secondary EXE process spawned that drops directly down to the system tray.

All is well and good, until the main starter application is closed. The spawned EXE's for the system tray app won't close without an end user selecting to exit them specifically.

Have attempted the reg mods defined in - http://support.citrix.com/article/ctx891671, but that hasn't done it for us so far.

I was recall some kind of third party app, "launchit" "launchthis"...or something similar which can watch spawned processes and close them out after the initially launched app closes.

Not finding it in my searches, curious if anyone else is aware of a utility which will help us close out this little bugger of an exe.

thanks,

Lan

 


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