Tuesday, July 22, 2008

[THIN] Re: Generally speaking - hardware

If anyone wants a report I wrote on the 4GB memory limit a couple of years ago, let me know. I have offered it on thin list before, so if you want, reply to me privately.

Berny

2008/7/22 Braebaum, Neil <Neil.Braebaum@shopdirect.com>:
Well there's always /3GB but I see your point, there's still no such
thing as a free lunch.

Neil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@freelists.org
> [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk
> Sent: 21 July 2008 19:37
> To: thin@freelists.org
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Generally speaking - hardware
>
> Right on except its 2 GB per process not 4GB.  And even with
> a x64 platform you're still running 32-bit code.
>
> Joe
>
> From: thin-bounce@freelists.org
> [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Landin, Mark
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:25 AM
> To: thin@freelists.org
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Generally speaking - hardware
>
> A 32-bit OS cannot provide more than 4GB to a given process.
> However, a server running 32-bit Windows Server 2003
> Enterprise edition, for isntance, can address up to 32GB of
> memory, and dole it out to individual processes as long as
> each chunk does not exceed 4 GB.
>
> In thin computing, it's rare to see any process which
> requires > 4GB. (CAD, GIS, and other scientific applications
> are about the only ones that do so). However, it's somewhat
> easy to find 10 processes each needing 500MB. You could not
> run the former type of application well on a 32-bit OS, but
> the latter applications would run fine on a 32-bit OS as long
> as the OS itself could address more than 4GB in total (which
> W2K3 Enterprise edition can). Therefore, it's possible you
> could run 30 users on a heavy app without going 64-bit. Right?
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: thin-bounce@freelists.org
> [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of GTaylor@rcrh.org
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:43 PM
> To: thin@freelists.org
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Generally speaking - hardware
>
> That depends on the application.  Small applications you may
> be able to get upwards of 40 users, but that's unusual.  A
> couple things to keep in mind, number 1 being that if your
> running a 32-bit OS your not going to use more than 4gig, so
> don't bother putting it in.  I also would not run a
> Presentation Server with less than 4gig.  If you want to get
> 30 users on a heavy application go to 64-Bit and load up the memory.
>
> From: thin-bounce@freelists.org
> [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Beckett,
> William (Bill)
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:37 AM
> To: thin@freelists.org
> Subject: [THIN] Generally speaking - hardware
>
> What do most of you run, memory wise for about a 25-30 user
> load per server for PS 4.0 on W2K3? 4GB memory? Less? More?



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