Tuesday, September 9, 2008

[THIN] Re: quick question on virtualization platforms

The only reason that I mention it is becuase there are a bunch of
VMWare pro folks out there that consider it a short coming of the
other platforms.

Frankly, arguments can be made all ways.

The hypervisor will slowly become a commodity driving the focus from
the hypervisor to other virtualization items and to the management
experience, which will become a more important differentiator (it is
currently a consideration).

And sooner or later that world will change as well - as standards come
into play that are currently still in flux.


On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wouldn't call oversubscribing the host's memory a plus. It's one of those
> things you have to be really careful about.
>
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> From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf
> Of Brian Ehlert
> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:41 AM
> To: thin@freelists.org
> Subject: [THIN] Re: quick question on virtualization platforms
>
> IMHO:
>
> At this point in time (as things are changing) VMware has two plusses
> over the others in the current and immediate future:
> 1) host memory over-commitment
> 2) VM portability across hardware (as in all devices are 100% emulated
> thus no hardware redetection in the guest OS at all).
>
> I first cut my hypervisor teeth on ESX just prior to Virtual Center
> and even the advantage that Virtual Center gave VMware in the past
> couple years is quickly disappearing.
>
> The decision is quickly coming down to cost, features, and familiarity.
>
> Do you really need VMotion? or is QuickMigration / Live Migration good
> enough?
> Do you really need DRS? (many have it, few really _use_ it)
> Are you recommending VMWare just becuase you are familiar with it (and
> vice-versa)?
>
> Either way, the playing field of features is quickly flattening.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Kevin Stewart <kevin.g.stewart@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Gurus and associated experts,
>>
>> I work for a company with a HUGE investment in VMware ESX and I can safely
>> say that I am very knowledgeable in the product(s). I now have an
>> opportunity to build a new virtualization infrastructure for another
> company
>> and I'm toying with the idea of stepping out of my comfort zone to look at
>> products like XenServer, MS Hyper-V, or Virtual Iron. I understand that
> this
>> is mainly a Citrix/RDP list, but I would also assume that many, or most of
>> you, are experts in one VM solution or another. Can anyone with experience
>> in VMware and one or more of the other products offer up your insite into
>> the differences, strengths and weaknesses of each? All of the vendors have
>> their own comparison models, so I'm really looking for personal
> experience.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> K Stewart
>>
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