Wednesday, May 27, 2009
[THIN] Attachmate and Streaming
[THIN] Re: OT: Crystal Decisions v8.5 activex viewer
though. I was thinking same lines though worse case of just having a
term server run IE6 and having a shortcut to that published app on the
users desktop.
Long term this may come up again. Anyone ever virtualize IE6 on a
terminal server (App-V or the new XenApp Application streaming)? Is
this difficult? Someday I'll get this farm upgraded to XA
5.0/Enterprise.
-Matt
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Daniel Sidler
<daniel.sidler@horizon21.com> wrote:
> Yes we had to isolate IE6 on it's own virtual presentation server and run it as a published application. Ugly. Mind you this was/is on PS4.0 where AIE was/is slightly less than usable. My uneducated guess is that with 4.5 and higher you have a good chance to use application isolation to run such a setup.
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Matt Kosht
> Sent: Mittwoch, 27. Mai 2009 16:37
> To: thin@freelists.org
> Subject: [THIN] OT: Crystal Decisions v8.5 activex viewer
>
> Sorry this is a bit off topic, but it is happening on a Citrix farm for what it's worth. Having an issue getting an old web app to work.
> It uses this ActiveX control to display reports in IE. This version of the control will not install on IE7 (which is on all Citrix
> servers) even at low security settings and allowing unsigned activex to install/run. I have tried forcing a newer version of the control but the web app won't work with newer versions that have no issue with IE7. Control works fine in IE6. Has anyone else faced/overcome this issue?
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[THIN] Re: OT: Crystal Decisions v8.5 activex viewer
Dan
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Subject: [THIN] OT: Crystal Decisions v8.5 activex viewer
Sorry this is a bit off topic, but it is happening on a Citrix farm for what it's worth. Having an issue getting an old web app to work.
It uses this ActiveX control to display reports in IE. This version of the control will not install on IE7 (which is on all Citrix
servers) even at low security settings and allowing unsigned activex to install/run. I have tried forcing a newer version of the control but the web app won't work with newer versions that have no issue with IE7. Control works fine in IE6. Has anyone else faced/overcome this issue?
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[THIN] OT: Crystal Decisions v8.5 activex viewer
for what it's worth. Having an issue getting an old web app to work.
It uses this ActiveX control to display reports in IE. This version
of the control will not install on IE7 (which is on all Citrix
servers) even at low security settings and allowing unsigned activex
to install/run. I have tried forcing a newer version of the control
but the web app won't work with newer versions that have no issue with
IE7. Control works fine in IE6. Has anyone else faced/overcome this
issue?
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[THIN] Re: visio 2007 on w2k3 term srvr - windows installer always runs
Jim Kenzig
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Try launching it in install mode
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Steve Snyder
Sent: 27 May 2009 10:48
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: visio 2007 on w2k3 term srvr - windows installer always runs
It was installed in install mode, but no, not being launched in installed mode (verified with a chgusr /query)
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
event id 11729
desc: product: microsoft office visio professional 2007 -- configuration failed.
If I launch it as admin it runs much longer and the event log entry is event id 11728, configuration completed successfully. Exit the app, relaunch, it does it again for admin as well.
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Carl Stalhood <cstalhood@gmail.com> wrote:
Does the application event log have any MSI events? Does one of them indicate a missing file or missing registry key?
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
sort of an annoying issue - every time a user launches visio 2007 the windows installer pops up for a few seconds before visio opens. close and relaunch, does it again. I found one article for an older version that mentioned missing language values in the registry, but they're there.
any clues?
SUBJECT TO CONTRACT
[THIN] Re: visio 2007 on w2k3 term srvr - windows installer always runs
Try launching it in install mode
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Steve Snyder
Sent: 27 May 2009 10:48
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: visio 2007 on w2k3 term srvr - windows installer always runs
It was installed in install mode, but no, not being launched in installed mode (verified with a chgusr /query)
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
event id 11729
desc: product: microsoft office visio professional 2007 -- configuration failed.
If I launch it as admin it runs much longer and the event log entry is event id 11728, configuration completed successfully. Exit the app, relaunch, it does it again for admin as well.
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Carl Stalhood <cstalhood@gmail.com> wrote:
Does the application event log have any MSI events? Does one of them indicate a missing file or missing registry key?
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
sort of an annoying issue - every time a user launches visio 2007 the windows installer pops up for a few seconds before visio opens. close and relaunch, does it again. I found one article for an older version that mentioned missing language values in the registry, but they're there.
any clues?
SUBJECT TO CONTRACT
[THIN] Re: visio 2007 on w2k3 term srvr - windows installer always runs
event id 11729
desc: product: microsoft office visio professional 2007 -- configuration failed.
If I launch it as admin it runs much longer and the event log entry is event id 11728, configuration completed successfully. Exit the app, relaunch, it does it again for admin as well.
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Carl Stalhood <cstalhood@gmail.com> wrote:Does the application event log have any MSI events? Does one of them indicate a missing file or missing registry key?
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
sort of an annoying issue - every time a user launches visio 2007 the windows installer pops up for a few seconds before visio opens. close and relaunch, does it again. I found one article for an older version that mentioned missing language values in the registry, but they're there.
any clues?
[THIN] Re: visio 2007 on w2k3 term srvr - windows installer always runs
Are you launching as admin in /install mode?
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Steve Snyder
Sent: 27 May 2009 00:01
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: visio 2007 on w2k3 term srvr - windows installer always runs
event id 11729
desc: product: microsoft office visio professional 2007 -- configuration failed.
If I launch it as admin it runs much longer and the event log entry is event id 11728, configuration completed successfully. Exit the app, relaunch, it does it again for admin as well.
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Carl Stalhood <cstalhood@gmail.com> wrote:
Does the application event log have any MSI events? Does one of them indicate a missing file or missing registry key?
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
sort of an annoying issue - every time a user launches visio 2007 the windows installer pops up for a few seconds before visio opens. close and relaunch, does it again. I found one article for an older version that mentioned missing language values in the registry, but they're there.
any clues?
SUBJECT TO CONTRACT
Tuesday, May 26, 2009
[THIN] Re: visio 2007 on w2k3 term srvr - windows installer always runs
desc: product: microsoft office visio professional 2007 -- configuration failed.
If I launch it as admin it runs much longer and the event log entry is event id 11728, configuration completed successfully. Exit the app, relaunch, it does it again for admin as well.
Does the application event log have any MSI events? Does one of them indicate a missing file or missing registry key?
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Steve Snyder <kwajalein@gmail.com> wrote:
sort of an annoying issue - every time a user launches visio 2007 the windows installer pops up for a few seconds before visio opens. close and relaunch, does it again. I found one article for an older version that mentioned missing language values in the registry, but they're there.
any clues?
[THIN] Re: visio 2007 on w2k3 term srvr - windows installer always runs
sort of an annoying issue - every time a user launches visio 2007 the windows installer pops up for a few seconds before visio opens. close and relaunch, does it again. I found one article for an older version that mentioned missing language values in the registry, but they're there.
any clues?
[THIN] visio 2007 on w2k3 term srvr - windows installer always runs
any clues?
[THIN] Download details: Windows Server 2008 Service Pack 2 and Windows Vista Service Pack 2 - Five Language Standalone (KB948465)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=a4dd31d5-f907-4406-9012-a5c3199ea2b3&DisplayLang=en
Jim Kenzig
Please excuse any typos.
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[THIN] Re: RDP and server 2000
Jim Kenzig
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Twitter: http://twitter.com/kenzig
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You could look into some other remote control software for your 2000 server. From VNC to GoToMyPC.
Joe
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Puneet Goel
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 1:07 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] RDP and server 2000
Hi,
I am trying to do RDP from my client to a windows 2000 advance server based system (SP4) but always getting color depth at 265 bit. I know that by default server 2000 will give me 8 bit only. Is there some way to get higher color depth (16 bit atleast).
My Limitations:
1. I can't upgrade to server 2003 as the software which is supposed to be executed on server is compatible with 2000 only.
2. Citrix ICA is a solution but not interested in going to that as it will be a costly affair.
Thanks
[THIN] Re: RDP and server 2000
You could look into some other remote control software for your 2000 server. From VNC to GoToMyPC.
Joe
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Puneet Goel
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 1:07 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] RDP and server 2000
Hi,
I am trying to do RDP from my client to a windows 2000 advance server based system (SP4) but always getting color depth at 265 bit. I know that by default server 2000 will give me 8 bit only. Is there some way to get higher color depth (16 bit atleast).
My Limitations:
1. I can't upgrade to server 2003 as the software which is supposed to be executed on server is compatible with 2000 only.
2. Citrix ICA is a solution but not interested in going to that as it will be a costly affair.
Thanks
[THIN] Streaming apps and -nohome switch
[THIN] RDP and server 2000
Monday, May 25, 2009
[THIN] Re: IMA Service Failure
Am adding it now to the MDT scripted build to see what happens . . i still think its the timing / section of when the Patch is applied as MD calls it.
I will force the MSI logging this time and see if its coming up with errors...
Thanks again for your advice.
James
From: joe.shonk@gmail.com
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: IMA Service Failure
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 23:43:24 -0700
Yup, did an upgrade for a XA4.5/5.0 Farm today with R04… It's a little annoying that R04 is out, yet Citrix is posting is still posting hotfixes based on R03. Time to post a question to the forum.
Joe
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of James Scanlon
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 11:02 PM
To: Thin
Subject: [THIN] Re: IMA Service Failure
Is that available for XenApp 4.5? from the downloads ive only found an R04 for Presentation Server 4.0?
Meanwhile a reinstall of the R03 has fixed things so far . . :-)
The newly built machine is now working again, with the IMA service changed BACK (by the hotfix) to run as network service. Sweet!
It may be the order in which the MDT install calls the tasks or the MDT not giving the RO3 install enough time to exit...
Applying R02/3/4/5/1000's are always so frustrating!
Cheers
James
From: joe.shonk@gmail.com
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: IMA Service Failure
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 21:41:02 -0700
Have you tried R04?
Joe
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of James Scanlon
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 8:37 PM
To: Thin
Subject: [THIN] IMA Service Failure
Greetings list legends of the universe:
This one is driving me nuts. We are using MDT to build a Citrix XenApp server, FP1, W2K3 R2 SP2
If we add the R03 update as a build task, the server joins the farm, with errors, then on the second reboot (or restart of the IMS service) the IMA Service fails.
We get the following errors:
Popup: Windows could not start the Citrix Independent Management Architecture on Local COmputer...... service-specific error code
-2147483647
Event Viewer: The Citrix Independent Management Architecture service terminated with service-specific error 2147483649
Failures
Recreating the LHC, and radecache is successful but doesnt fix
Changing access permissions to TEMP directory doesnt fix a thing
Running CHFARM Fails: An Error occured while attempting to start the IMA service to the same farm or any other database (even local access farm)
Success
Changing the service to run as Local Service is the only thing that seems to work, but im reluctant to do that as all the other servers run as Network Service, but I Am concerned the service will not get all the required permissiosn it needs if running as local service?!?! I am however able to connect to a published desktop on ths trouble server/s
Removing R03 from the build process and applying manually after the full system build is the only thing that seems to work, which is not a solution as the systems need to build themselves with all latest updates....
Can we leave the IMA as local system?
Any advice appreciated!
James
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[THIN] Re: IMA Service Failure
Yup, did an upgrade for a XA4.5/5.0 Farm today with R04… It’s a little annoying that R04 is out, yet Citrix is posting is still posting hotfixes based on R03. Time to post a question to the forum.
Joe
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of James Scanlon
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 11:02 PM
To: Thin
Subject: [THIN] Re: IMA Service Failure
Is that available for XenApp 4.5? from the downloads ive only found an R04 for Presentation Server 4.0?
Meanwhile a reinstall of the R03 has fixed things so far . . :-)
The newly built machine is now working again, with the IMA service changed BACK (by the hotfix) to run as network service. Sweet!
It may be the order in which the MDT install calls the tasks or the MDT not giving the RO3 install enough time to exit...
Applying R02/3/4/5/1000's are always so frustrating!
Cheers
James
From: joe.shonk@gmail.com
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: IMA Service Failure
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 21:41:02 -0700
Have you tried R04?
Joe
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of James Scanlon
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 8:37 PM
To: Thin
Subject: [THIN] IMA Service Failure
Greetings list legends of the universe:
This one is driving me nuts. We are using MDT to build a Citrix XenApp server, FP1, W2K3 R2 SP2
If we add the R03 update as a build task, the server joins the farm, with errors, then on the second reboot (or restart of the IMS service) the IMA Service fails.
We get the following errors:
Popup: Windows could not start the Citrix Independent Management Architecture on Local COmputer...... service-specific error code
-2147483647
Event Viewer: The Citrix Independent Management Architecture service terminated with service-specific error 2147483649
Failures
Recreating the LHC, and radecache is successful but doesnt fix
Changing access permissions to TEMP directory doesnt fix a thing
Running CHFARM Fails: An Error occured while attempting to start the IMA service to the same farm or any other database (even local access farm)
Success
Changing the service to run as Local Service is the only thing that seems to work, but im reluctant to do that as all the other servers run as Network Service, but I Am concerned the service will not get all the required permissiosn it needs if running as local service?!?! I am however able to connect to a published desktop on ths trouble server/s
Removing R03 from the build process and applying manually after the full system build is the only thing that seems to work, which is not a solution as the systems need to build themselves with all latest updates....
Can we leave the IMA as local system?
Any advice appreciated!
James
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[THIN] Re: IMA Service Failure
Meanwhile a reinstall of the R03 has fixed things so far . . :-)
The newly built machine is now working again, with the IMA service changed BACK (by the hotfix) to run as network service. Sweet!
It may be the order in which the MDT install calls the tasks or the MDT not giving the RO3 install enough time to exit...
Applying R02/3/4/5/1000's are always so frustrating!
Cheers
James
From: joe.shonk@gmail.com
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: IMA Service Failure
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 21:41:02 -0700
Have you tried R04?
Joe
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of James Scanlon
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 8:37 PM
To: Thin
Subject: [THIN] IMA Service Failure
Greetings list legends of the universe:
This one is driving me nuts. We are using MDT to build a Citrix XenApp server, FP1, W2K3 R2 SP2
If we add the R03 update as a build task, the server joins the farm, with errors, then on the second reboot (or restart of the IMS service) the IMA Service fails.
We get the following errors:
Popup: Windows could not start the Citrix Independent Management Architecture on Local COmputer...... service-specific error code
-2147483647
Event Viewer: The Citrix Independent Management Architecture service terminated with service-specific error 2147483649
Failures
Recreating the LHC, and radecache is successful but doesnt fix
Changing access permissions to TEMP directory doesnt fix a thing
Running CHFARM Fails: An Error occured while attempting to start the IMA service to the same farm or any other database (even local access farm)
Success
Changing the service to run as Local Service is the only thing that seems to work, but im reluctant to do that as all the other servers run as Network Service, but I Am concerned the service will not get all the required permissiosn it needs if running as local service?!?! I am however able to connect to a published desktop on ths trouble server/s
Removing R03 from the build process and applying manually after the full system build is the only thing that seems to work, which is not a solution as the systems need to build themselves with all latest updates....
Can we leave the IMA as local system?
Any advice appreciated!
James
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[THIN] Re: IMA Service Failure
Have you tried R04?
Joe
From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf Of James Scanlon
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 8:37 PM
To: Thin
Subject: [THIN] IMA Service Failure
Greetings list legends of the universe:
This one is driving me nuts. We are using MDT to build a Citrix XenApp server, FP1, W2K3 R2 SP2
If we add the R03 update as a build task, the server joins the farm, with errors, then on the second reboot (or restart of the IMS service) the IMA Service fails.
We get the following errors:
Popup: Windows could not start the Citrix Independent Management Architecture on Local COmputer...... service-specific error code
-2147483647
Event Viewer: The Citrix Independent Management Architecture service terminated with service-specific error 2147483649
Failures
Recreating the LHC, and radecache is successful but doesnt fix
Changing access permissions to TEMP directory doesnt fix a thing
Running CHFARM Fails: An Error occured while attempting to start the IMA service to the same farm or any other database (even local access farm)
Success
Changing the service to run as Local Service is the only thing that seems to work, but im reluctant to do that as all the other servers run as Network Service, but I Am concerned the service will not get all the required permissiosn it needs if running as local service?!?! I am however able to connect to a published desktop on ths trouble server/s
Removing R03 from the build process and applying manually after the full system build is the only thing that seems to work, which is not a solution as the systems need to build themselves with all latest updates....
Can we leave the IMA as local system?
Any advice appreciated!
James
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Sunday, May 24, 2009
[THIN] IMA Service Failure
This one is driving me nuts. We are using MDT to build a Citrix XenApp server, FP1, W2K3 R2 SP2
If we add the R03 update as a build task, the server joins the farm, with errors, then on the second reboot (or restart of the IMS service) the IMA Service fails.
We get the following errors:
Popup: Windows could not start the Citrix Independent Management Architecture on Local COmputer...... service-specific error code
-2147483647
Event Viewer: The Citrix Independent Management Architecture service terminated with service-specific error 2147483649
Failures
Recreating the LHC, and radecache is successful but doesnt fix
Changing access permissions to TEMP directory doesnt fix a thing
Running CHFARM Fails: An Error occured while attempting to start the IMA service to the same farm or any other database (even local access farm)
Success
Changing the service to run as Local Service is the only thing that seems to work, but im reluctant to do that as all the other servers run as Network Service, but I Am concerned the service will not get all the required permissiosn it needs if running as local service?!?! I am however able to connect to a published desktop on ths trouble server/s
Removing R03 from the build process and applying manually after the full system build is the only thing that seems to work, which is not a solution as the systems need to build themselves with all latest updates....
Can we leave the IMA as local system?
Any advice appreciated!
James
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[THIN] Re: Streaming MYOB
Im certain its a config / "not so blank" server that we are publishing on thats breaking things... :-)
My sincerest thanks once more, as you have indeed been a great help / learning experience.
Ill keep on with the trial version for now, as it works fine without profiling it... :-)
Regards
James
> Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 12:03:54 +1000
> From: caditc@tpg.com.au
> To: thin@freelists.org
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Streaming MYOB
>
> Hi James
>
> that's unfortunate that our testing still didn't help you. I'm not so sure that the demo installer
> would be the problem, but we did use an official CD out of a MYOB box product. If you would like
> an FTP site to download this version, please let me know and I can provide it via a secure email.
> There's no copyright infringment here becasue the software can be installed and distributed
> anywhere - it's the company file that must be activated. Let me know and I'll send you the link.
>
> As for the profiling machine, we treat building profiles like we did when Citrix Installation
> Manager was the rage many years ago (how old do I feel) - build everything on a new image of
> a blank machine. In this MYOB example, we simply built a BLANK Windows 2003 sp2 machine
> with nothing else on it, to be the profiling machine. We didn't install any other program, we
> didn't add it to the domain, etc. All pretty basic. We did install Office 2k3/ 2k7 on the profiling
> machine on the second run of tests to try and break it, and we got the results as stated. One
> other note is that our profiling machine and our Citrix Server that we streamed the package to
> and published, were Xenserver 5.0.0.u3 VM's, but it should make much difference. For me, the
> rule is to profile your packages on a clean machine everytime, unless the program relies on
> another software package. And when buidling package for a Citrix environment, only install the
> operating system you are using + sp's +hotfixes. Don't install Citrix, Don't add Terminal
> Services, just a vanilla install and that's it.
>
> We had success every time with MYOB like this, except when Office 2k3/2k7 became part of the
> mix. If you want the FTP link, let me know. I'm happy to help you where I can so keep me in
> the loop if you are banging you head against a brivk wall.
>
> Cheers
>
> --
> Warren Simondson
>
> Ctrl-Alt-Del IT Consultancy Pty Ltd
>
> Website: http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com.au
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 25th, 2009 at 10:54 AM, James Scanlon <scanjam@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Warren,
> >
> >
> >
> > My sincerest thanks once more for your further input.
> >
> > I was certain this wasnt supposed to be as troublesome as it has been
> > as myob is typically a very easy install.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regardless, im still having issues.
> >
> >
> >
> > We dont have Office 2007 (just 2003 sp3)
> >
> > I have removed the officelink and outlooksync
> >
> > No linked profiles are configured
> >
> > Quick Install is utilised.
> >
> >
> >
> > Do you think it could be because we are usign the "demo installer"
> > from the myob website?
> >
> >
> >
> > Should I setup a BLANK windows machine to profile it on rather than
> > the current environment or is it best practice to always profile the
> > program on a machine that will be similar/identical to the server the
> > program will be streamed onto?
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyway I will continue to smash it out this end and see what happens,
> > i am confident we will get a resolution, its just frustrating that
> > something that is usually simple, still isnt working!! :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > Sincerely
> >
> > James
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 20:15:34 +1000
> > > From: caditc@tpg.com.au
> > > To: thin@freelists.org
> > > Subject: [THIN] Re: Streaming MYOB
> > >
> > > Hi James
> > >
> > > We have thrashed MYOB Premier 12 with every possible angle with
> > regards to streaming and we
> > > were only able to break it in three scenarios with the error you
> > are getting:
> > >
> > > 1. When we enabled OFFICELINK TEMPLATES and OUTLOOK SYNC during the
> > install, which of
> > > course meant we had office 2007 installed on the profiling machine
> > (some what a no-no in
> > > profiling but acceptable in some cases).
> > > 2. As per the first scenario, but office on the Citrix Server had
> > Office 2007 installed in a different
> > > location to the profiling machine.
> > > 3. We built a new profiling machine with nothing on it and profiled
> > MYOB but linked our Office
> > > 2007 profile to the MYOB profile package and included OFFCELINK
> > templates and OUTLOOK
> > > SYNC.
> > >
> > > Every other scenario we ran which removed the officelink templates
> > and outlook sync from the
> > > installed worked everytime and happily opened the CleaWater Company
> > DB without issue when
> > > Streamed to a Citrix PS 4.5/ Xenapp 5.0 server.
> > >
> > > In all tests, we ran as a basic domain user with no elevated
> > privileges. When we published the
> > > Streaming App, we even ran it with the "use least privileged user
> > account" setting on and it
> > > worked well in all cases except for the 3 listed. We also did not
> > enable offline access (naturally).
> > >
> > > We also used Office 2003 and the same errors occured with
> > Officelink templates and outlook
> > > sync on.
> > >
> > > We did a quick install when building the profile with Profiler 1.2,
> > so nothing special there.
> > >
> > > So after all the playing/ testing we did, and it was a fun time for
> > my staff, I guess I'm saying
> > > that the Office components of MYOB may be the problem in your
> > scenario. Let me know if any of
> > > this is helpful. In most cases we had MYOB 12 Premier working like
> > a charm with both the
> > > clearwater DB on another network share and a live company DB.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Warren Simondson
> > >
> > > Ctrl-Alt-Del IT Consultancy Pty Ltd
> > >
> > > Website: http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com.au
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 14th, 2009 at 10:53 AM, James Scanlon
> > <scanjam@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Warren, I woudl be eternally grateful!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Its Windows 2003 Standard SP2
> > > > XenApp 5.0 (4.5 Fp1 or whatever it is) Enterprise
> > > >
> > > > Profiler 1.2
> > > >
> > > > Myob Premier 12
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I can get it to profile successfully and to stream it to other
> > > > servers, and launching it with RADERUN or even publishign and
> > running
> > > > so far works fine, however upon trying to get the application to
> > open
> > > > a MYOB database we get "initilisation error" . WHen profiled
> > "relaxed
> > > > security" was used (after full security) to no avail...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Naturally without isolating/profiling the program it works fine.
> > > >
> > > > I am thinking its a simple rule somewhere that i just need to
> > relax
> > > > to allow the program OUT to access its database files. . but not
> > > > quite sure what to set?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Interestingly enough I cant access the 'clearwater' database
> > > > contained within the profile either, still comes up with the
> > same
> > > > message.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your help would be greatly appreciated!!
> > > >
> > > > Thank you
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > James
> > > >
> > > > scanjam@hotmail.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:39:34 +1000
> > > > > From: caditc@tpg.com.au
> > > > > To: thin@freelists.org
> > > > > Subject: [THIN] Re: Streaming MYOB
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi James
> > > > >
> > > > > Let me know the environment you are running under (OS etc) and
> > I'll
> > > > get one of my staff to run
> > > > > up a test in our big in-house sand pit. We have many clients
> > that
> > > > run MYOB 12 and we
> > > > > successfully stream it. Just let me know what the environment
> > is
> > > > and I'll be happy to provide our
> > > > > install docs. Unlike those other Aussie integrators, we solve
> > > > things ourselves instead of waiting
> > > > > for Citrix support to solve our problems.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Warren Simondson
> > > > >
> > > > > Ctrl-Alt-Del IT Consultancy Pty Ltd
> > > > >
> > > > > Website: http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com.au
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Quoting James Scanlon <scanjam@hotmail.com>:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Has anyone had any luck streaming (to server) MYOB Premier
> > > > version
> > > > > > 12?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We have configured it for streaming and it is crashing /
> > halting
> > > > the
> > > > > > streaming when it gets to the clearwater database file?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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[THIN] Re: Streaming MYOB
that's unfortunate that our testing still didn't help you. I'm not so sure that the demo installer
would be the problem, but we did use an official CD out of a MYOB box product. If you would like
an FTP site to download this version, please let me know and I can provide it via a secure email.
There's no copyright infringment here becasue the software can be installed and distributed
anywhere - it's the company file that must be activated. Let me know and I'll send you the link.
As for the profiling machine, we treat building profiles like we did when Citrix Installation
Manager was the rage many years ago (how old do I feel) - build everything on a new image of
a blank machine. In this MYOB example, we simply built a BLANK Windows 2003 sp2 machine
with nothing else on it, to be the profiling machine. We didn't install any other program, we
didn't add it to the domain, etc. All pretty basic. We did install Office 2k3/ 2k7 on the profiling
machine on the second run of tests to try and break it, and we got the results as stated. One
other note is that our profiling machine and our Citrix Server that we streamed the package to
and published, were Xenserver 5.0.0.u3 VM's, but it should make much difference. For me, the
rule is to profile your packages on a clean machine everytime, unless the program relies on
another software package. And when buidling package for a Citrix environment, only install the
operating system you are using + sp's +hotfixes. Don't install Citrix, Don't add Terminal
Services, just a vanilla install and that's it.
We had success every time with MYOB like this, except when Office 2k3/2k7 became part of the
mix. If you want the FTP link, let me know. I'm happy to help you where I can so keep me in
the loop if you are banging you head against a brivk wall.
Cheers
--
Warren Simondson
Ctrl-Alt-Del IT Consultancy Pty Ltd
Website: http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com.au
On Mon, May 25th, 2009 at 10:54 AM, James Scanlon <scanjam@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Warren,
>
>
>
> My sincerest thanks once more for your further input.
>
> I was certain this wasnt supposed to be as troublesome as it has been
> as myob is typically a very easy install.
>
>
>
> Regardless, im still having issues.
>
>
>
> We dont have Office 2007 (just 2003 sp3)
>
> I have removed the officelink and outlooksync
>
> No linked profiles are configured
>
> Quick Install is utilised.
>
>
>
> Do you think it could be because we are usign the "demo installer"
> from the myob website?
>
>
>
> Should I setup a BLANK windows machine to profile it on rather than
> the current environment or is it best practice to always profile the
> program on a machine that will be similar/identical to the server the
> program will be streamed onto?
>
>
>
> Anyway I will continue to smash it out this end and see what happens,
> i am confident we will get a resolution, its just frustrating that
> something that is usually simple, still isnt working!! :-)
>
>
>
> Sincerely
>
> James
>
> > Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 20:15:34 +1000
> > From: caditc@tpg.com.au
> > To: thin@freelists.org
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Streaming MYOB
> >
> > Hi James
> >
> > We have thrashed MYOB Premier 12 with every possible angle with
> regards to streaming and we
> > were only able to break it in three scenarios with the error you
> are getting:
> >
> > 1. When we enabled OFFICELINK TEMPLATES and OUTLOOK SYNC during the
> install, which of
> > course meant we had office 2007 installed on the profiling machine
> (some what a no-no in
> > profiling but acceptable in some cases).
> > 2. As per the first scenario, but office on the Citrix Server had
> Office 2007 installed in a different
> > location to the profiling machine.
> > 3. We built a new profiling machine with nothing on it and profiled
> MYOB but linked our Office
> > 2007 profile to the MYOB profile package and included OFFCELINK
> templates and OUTLOOK
> > SYNC.
> >
> > Every other scenario we ran which removed the officelink templates
> and outlook sync from the
> > installed worked everytime and happily opened the CleaWater Company
> DB without issue when
> > Streamed to a Citrix PS 4.5/ Xenapp 5.0 server.
> >
> > In all tests, we ran as a basic domain user with no elevated
> privileges. When we published the
> > Streaming App, we even ran it with the "use least privileged user
> account" setting on and it
> > worked well in all cases except for the 3 listed. We also did not
> enable offline access (naturally).
> >
> > We also used Office 2003 and the same errors occured with
> Officelink templates and outlook
> > sync on.
> >
> > We did a quick install when building the profile with Profiler 1.2,
> so nothing special there.
> >
> > So after all the playing/ testing we did, and it was a fun time for
> my staff, I guess I'm saying
> > that the Office components of MYOB may be the problem in your
> scenario. Let me know if any of
> > this is helpful. In most cases we had MYOB 12 Premier working like
> a charm with both the
> > clearwater DB on another network share and a live company DB.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> > --
> > Warren Simondson
> >
> > Ctrl-Alt-Del IT Consultancy Pty Ltd
> >
> > Website: http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com.au
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 14th, 2009 at 10:53 AM, James Scanlon
> <scanjam@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Warren, I woudl be eternally grateful!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Its Windows 2003 Standard SP2
> > > XenApp 5.0 (4.5 Fp1 or whatever it is) Enterprise
> > >
> > > Profiler 1.2
> > >
> > > Myob Premier 12
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I can get it to profile successfully and to stream it to other
> > > servers, and launching it with RADERUN or even publishign and
> running
> > > so far works fine, however upon trying to get the application to
> open
> > > a MYOB database we get "initilisation error" . WHen profiled
> "relaxed
> > > security" was used (after full security) to no avail...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Naturally without isolating/profiling the program it works fine.
> > >
> > > I am thinking its a simple rule somewhere that i just need to
> relax
> > > to allow the program OUT to access its database files. . but not
> > > quite sure what to set?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Interestingly enough I cant access the 'clearwater' database
> > > contained within the profile either, still comes up with the
> same
> > > message.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your help would be greatly appreciated!!
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > James
> > >
> > > scanjam@hotmail.com
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:39:34 +1000
> > > > From: caditc@tpg.com.au
> > > > To: thin@freelists.org
> > > > Subject: [THIN] Re: Streaming MYOB
> > > >
> > > > Hi James
> > > >
> > > > Let me know the environment you are running under (OS etc) and
> I'll
> > > get one of my staff to run
> > > > up a test in our big in-house sand pit. We have many clients
> that
> > > run MYOB 12 and we
> > > > successfully stream it. Just let me know what the environment
> is
> > > and I'll be happy to provide our
> > > > install docs. Unlike those other Aussie integrators, we solve
> > > things ourselves instead of waiting
> > > > for Citrix support to solve our problems.
> > > > --
> > > > Warren Simondson
> > > >
> > > > Ctrl-Alt-Del IT Consultancy Pty Ltd
> > > >
> > > > Website: http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com.au
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Quoting James Scanlon <scanjam@hotmail.com>:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Has anyone had any luck streaming (to server) MYOB Premier
> > > version
> > > > > 12?
> > > > >
> > > > > We have configured it for streaming and it is crashing /
> halting
> > > the
> > > > > streaming when it gets to the clearwater database file?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> _________________________________________________________________
> > > > > Looking for a fresh way to share your photos? Check out the
> new
> > > > > Windows Live Messenger
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[THIN] Re: Streaming MYOB
My sincerest thanks once more for your further input.
I was certain this wasnt supposed to be as troublesome as it has been as myob is typically a very easy install.
Regardless, im still having issues.
We dont have Office 2007 (just 2003 sp3)
I have removed the officelink and outlooksync
No linked profiles are configured
Quick Install is utilised.
Do you think it could be because we are usign the "demo installer" from the myob website?
Should I setup a BLANK windows machine to profile it on rather than the current environment or is it best practice to always profile the program on a machine that will be similar/identical to the server the program will be streamed onto?
Anyway I will continue to smash it out this end and see what happens, i am confident we will get a resolution, its just frustrating that something that is usually simple, still isnt working!! :-)
Sincerely
James
> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 20:15:34 +1000
> From: caditc@tpg.com.au
> To: thin@freelists.org
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Streaming MYOB
>
> Hi James
>
> We have thrashed MYOB Premier 12 with every possible angle with regards to streaming and we
> were only able to break it in three scenarios with the error you are getting:
>
> 1. When we enabled OFFICELINK TEMPLATES and OUTLOOK SYNC during the install, which of
> course meant we had office 2007 installed on the profiling machine (some what a no-no in
> profiling but acceptable in some cases).
> 2. As per the first scenario, but office on the Citrix Server had Office 2007 installed in a different
> location to the profiling machine.
> 3. We built a new profiling machine with nothing on it and profiled MYOB but linked our Office
> 2007 profile to the MYOB profile package and included OFFCELINK templates and OUTLOOK
> SYNC.
>
> Every other scenario we ran which removed the officelink templates and outlook sync from the
> installed worked everytime and happily opened the CleaWater Company DB without issue when
> Streamed to a Citrix PS 4.5/ Xenapp 5.0 server.
>
> In all tests, we ran as a basic domain user with no elevated privileges. When we published the
> Streaming App, we even ran it with the "use least privileged user account" setting on and it
> worked well in all cases except for the 3 listed. We also did not enable offline access (naturally).
>
> We also used Office 2003 and the same errors occured with Officelink templates and outlook
> sync on.
>
> We did a quick install when building the profile with Profiler 1.2, so nothing special there.
>
> So after all the playing/ testing we did, and it was a fun time for my staff, I guess I'm saying
> that the Office components of MYOB may be the problem in your scenario. Let me know if any of
> this is helpful. In most cases we had MYOB 12 Premier working like a charm with both the
> clearwater DB on another network share and a live company DB.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> --
> Warren Simondson
>
> Ctrl-Alt-Del IT Consultancy Pty Ltd
>
> Website: http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com.au
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 14th, 2009 at 10:53 AM, James Scanlon <scanjam@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Warren, I woudl be eternally grateful!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > Its Windows 2003 Standard SP2
> > XenApp 5.0 (4.5 Fp1 or whatever it is) Enterprise
> >
> > Profiler 1.2
> >
> > Myob Premier 12
> >
> >
> >
> > I can get it to profile successfully and to stream it to other
> > servers, and launching it with RADERUN or even publishign and running
> > so far works fine, however upon trying to get the application to open
> > a MYOB database we get "initilisation error" . WHen profiled "relaxed
> > security" was used (after full security) to no avail...
> >
> >
> >
> > Naturally without isolating/profiling the program it works fine.
> >
> > I am thinking its a simple rule somewhere that i just need to relax
> > to allow the program OUT to access its database files. . but not
> > quite sure what to set?
> >
> >
> >
> > Interestingly enough I cant access the 'clearwater' database
> > contained within the profile either, still comes up with the same
> > message.
> >
> >
> >
> > Your help would be greatly appreciated!!
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> >
> >
> > James
> >
> > scanjam@hotmail.com
> >
> >
> > > Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:39:34 +1000
> > > From: caditc@tpg.com.au
> > > To: thin@freelists.org
> > > Subject: [THIN] Re: Streaming MYOB
> > >
> > > Hi James
> > >
> > > Let me know the environment you are running under (OS etc) and I'll
> > get one of my staff to run
> > > up a test in our big in-house sand pit. We have many clients that
> > run MYOB 12 and we
> > > successfully stream it. Just let me know what the environment is
> > and I'll be happy to provide our
> > > install docs. Unlike those other Aussie integrators, we solve
> > things ourselves instead of waiting
> > > for Citrix support to solve our problems.
> > > --
> > > Warren Simondson
> > >
> > > Ctrl-Alt-Del IT Consultancy Pty Ltd
> > >
> > > Website: http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com.au
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Quoting James Scanlon <scanjam@hotmail.com>:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone had any luck streaming (to server) MYOB Premier
> > version
> > > > 12?
> > > >
> > > > We have configured it for streaming and it is crashing / halting
> > the
> > > > streaming when it gets to the clearwater database file?
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