Monday, February 9, 2009

[THIN] Re: Anyone using Application virtualization inside a Citrix/TS session?

But what is the real costs? Citrix's Solution is CCU where as Microsoft is
not. Also, doesn't App-V require SA and an Enterprise agreement?

Joe

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From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On Behalf
Of Matt Kosht
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 6:56 AM
To: thin@freelists.org
Subject: [THIN] Re: Anyone using Application virtualization inside a
Citrix/TS session?

Thanks for the advice Steve. XenApp Enterprise does like kind of
pricey (likely at least another $100USD/concurrent user) App-V TS is
less than $40USD though with the integration with Citrix it might be
worth it. Definitely going to pit them head to head.
-Matt

On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Steve Greenberg <steveg@thinclient.net>
wrote:
>
> We have done it for many years primarily with SoftGrid, now Microsoft
App-V.
> At this point for use in a Citrix farm I would suggest testing the Citrix
> streaming solution. Earlier version were lacking but recently they have
> worked on adding inter "Bubble" communications and are overcoming some of
> the limitations of App-V in the process.
>
> I believe it is included with the Enterprise version of XenApp, definitely
> in Platinum......
>
> The short version has been from our experience to install the simple apps
> that present no issues and have no real integration requirements into the
> base OS and then stream the rest that require isolation, frequent patches,
> weird integration requirements, etc.
>
>
> Again, I recommend trying the Citrix solution first because it is built in
> to the product and has minimal infrastructure requirements. If it doesn't
> work then you can progress onto App-V or other solutions but they will
have
> additional cost and complexity.......
>
>
>
> Steve Greenberg
> Thin Client Computing
> 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
> Scottsdale, AZ 85266
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> www.thinclient.net
> steveg@thinclient.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:thin-bounce@freelists.org] On
Behalf
> Of Matt Kosht
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:09 PM
> To: thin@freelists.org
> Subject: [THIN] Anyone using Application virtualization inside a Citrix/TS
> session?
>
> Looking to test this for our Citrix farm in the near future. My
> objective is to sequence most apps we use on our farm to make the
> actual Citrix server nothing more than an OS and place for the
> virtualized apps to run. What do you use? Why did you choose/stick
> with this product? I know Citrix has their own app streaming in
> XA5.0, but don't you have to run Enterprise or Platinum editions to
> get this functionality? Anyone use App-V for Terminal Services? Is
> this better/worse solution than Citrix? Other products I should try
> evaluating that do this would also be welcome.
> -Matt
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